Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

Yeah, we don’t appreciate it when our local governments try and act like that… Our supreme court is always busy with people bringing cases their way.

Could be worse, though. We could be British and need a permit for a butter knife. :sunglasses:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/09/kony-2012-quickly-became-a-punch-line-but-what-if-it-did-more-good-than-harm.html
Do you remember Kony 2012? Remember how hot of a topic that was? Did you ever support it and if so, what were the outcomes?

Take the Kony 2012 situation and now apply that outrage towards Blizzard. This began as outrage for Blizz punishing a message for breaking contract, then escalated to China, but really this rabbit hole goes deeper than you think. Are you, the activists, taking every detail of the interconnection between basic business and trade with other countries into account? Are you TRULY throwing out your support are you doing it to feel good, join the crowd, show you have a good heart?

Then think about how quickly the outrage of Kony 2012 fell and faded away. Do you think or do you hope what you did as an activist actually did something and what will you be doing in the 7 years following this now?

Not defending China. I actually think what they’re doing is horrendous.
Not defending Blizzard, as a company, they are horrible to their employees.
I do however agree that Blitz being punished for breaking the rules has consequences. It’s an open and shut case really. He knowingly broke a rule and admitted afterwards that he intentionally did it and why. A first day law student could win that case. Blizzard came down extremely hard which was wrong, but they did fix that.
Politicians? You mean Rubio, who has no political clout and a rando house member who also has no political clout? You do realize it’s just tokenism right? They are just trying to be relevant and gain support from a new community.
Notice how they haven’t said anything else for days?
Gaming companies? You mean Epic which is a private company that can safely speak out against China because they are a private company?
It’s definitely a PR issue, never said it wasn’t, but it isn’t an issue that is going to hurt their bottom line.

You have the right to peaceful assembly, not a right to do so wherever you choose.

We all know it’s more to stick it to Blizzard than anything else.
We also know that it won’t change anything.
It just makes them feel important is all.

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Whether I agree with their message or not, I believe in the right to protest. It’s odd to me how many people want that “smashed” over their entertainment. Also, I can’t imagine how well the civil rights movement would have done if they made sure they never encroached on anyone’s fun. Of course, you are free to protest the protesters…etc.

Oh, they can protest if they want to.
Go ahead, feel free.
Do it for the right reasons and make sure to get a permit because Anaheim cops do not mess around with people who break the law.

Side note:

Why is my guild name blue when everyone else’s is white?

Why someone else does something is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and, believe it or not, outside of your control.

:rofl:

That right is granted in public settings.

Well obviously the Why is out of my control, that’s out of everyone’s control.
As for none of my business, this is factually untrue.
As I am a part of the gaming community and more specifically the Blizzard community, it is my business and everyone else’s in fact.

Good try though.

You about done?

Do you not understand how much of a Hypocrit Blizzard is? Displaying Pride shirts/signs at other events, because there is no negative outcome. The tide has turned in America regarding LGBT rights. So politics spread at their events that are popular suits them. As soon as money comes in or something that is divisive they come in with “oh well technically.” Also the Americans weren’t punished, you either ban them all of your ban none.

I don’t doubt people are capitulating on the oppurtunity to make them look good and honestly idc if the end result is meaningful change you can have all the social point standing you want. I think your problem is that you are jaded and too cynical to the world that any action no matter how meaningful can cause change.

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Nope.
People are routinely arrested and corralled for protesting in public places without permission.
Especially in downtown Anaheim, literally down the street from Disneyland.

I know. I’m saying that’s unconstitutional.

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There is a difference between Anaheim and HK, or anywhere in China yes? What do you stand to lose from being arrested in both countries? Maybe a 24 hour lock up and an appearance in court with a fine for Anaheim, In China you get sent to a camp and put through stress tortures.

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.

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But you don’t decide right reasons for other people. You have, from the start of this, just been having a tantrum because everyone doesn’t think like you. Also, Anaheim police are not some itching to violence mob you keep hinting at. This isn’t LA in the early 90s. You are so dramatic

You guys are funny…

Thinking your posts here will actually do anything to stop this is about the same as those who are posting Boycott Blizzard and thinking anyone here cares.

I’m not jaded, I just know how the world works.
Also, LGBT rights, is not a political issue.
Showing support for a marginalized community, is not a political issue.
The American situation was different than Blitz’s situation.
They staged a passive protest by standing up holding a sign.
Blitz co-opted an interview meant for him to talk about his win and instead made a political statement, in violation of the rules.

Also, collegiate rules =/= as grandmaster rules.

If you’re going to bring up other examples to point inconsistencies, you should at least have all of the information.

I can look to history to see what actions cause change and I can tell you with 100% certainty that protesting Blizzcon, will not help HK at all.

https:// www. scmp. com/lifestyle/health-wellness/article/2151975/asias-booming-dog-meat-business-and-activists-seeking-end

Is an example of a protest that actually changed something in China.

Want to know why?

Because people actually went out there, to China, to do something.
They didn’t sit in the comfort of America and talk at people.

I do not think everyone would be enjoying the same rights right now if the Marches didn’t inconvienence people. It forced the issue into the sunlight rather than corralling them off into obscurity.

Right, the experience of people from all over the world who have worked, saved, and paid to be there deserves to be ruined over this.