Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

We implemented economic sanctions on Russia for way less messed up stuff than what China’s been doing.

Velara you scared off my target from my replies ;c lol :stuck_out_tongue:

And of course, those were super effective.

What people are saying is true. An American team also used blizzards platform to display pro Hong kong signs and opinions on a tournament stream and were not punished. In fact, they were immediately booked for their next game

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I did? :sob: Sorry …

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The stream was cut for another match if thats the same one you’re talking about. Has any other team or group done it too?

A part of me wonders if its because of the whole “monkey see monkey do” thing. Slap on the wrist for them or they just got off free?

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The specific views expressed by blitzchung were NOT a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision.

Oh yeah right. Do you honestly think that if some American yelled “BLACK LIVES MATTER” during a US tournament that Blizz would do anything? Give me a break. How stupid do they think we are?

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It’s worth adding one more thing to what Byucknah said. Not all of Blizzard Entertainment agrees with this stance or what was done. Much like the cinematic with Saurfang’s Mak’gora, Blizzard includes those who feel one way, and those who feel another; and all of them are Blizzard Entertainment.

It is also worth remembering that many of them also have families they must feed. Thus quitting their job for a political reason is not tenable, nor is boycotting, as they’ll be the ones to feel that first; not the higher ups. Look at what happened to Ythisens after all.

My point is, don’t judge all for a decision that evidently was made by a few. You’ll be sending too many innocent people to the proverbial guillotine. We don’t need a modern day equivalent of the mentality Maximilien Robespierre espoused.

America doesn’t trade much with Russia which makes it easy for America to propose. It was a much harder sell in Europe where parts of Europe still oppose the sanctions. Europe also tried to get around Iran’s sanctions, but once again America doesn’t trade much with Iran so not much damage to America.

Economic sanctions against China would hurt America also and runs the risk of not many others actually joining in. But anyway concerning Russia, it’s really easy for America to impose sanctions when they’re not the ones with much skin in the game.

Well, if youre in agreement with Velara that contracts are binding and blizzard is required to punish players for breaking them, why was one player punished and another was not?

Negative ghostrider.

I think the original punishment was excessive personally.

Just read some of the replies in this thread. About that stupid I’d wager.

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If it was a live tournament being watched the person would be affected by a combination of cheer and boos. If at Blizzcon? I’d say more boos than cheers just because those attending Blizzcon are either going for the content and either care or don’t care about this thing. Or, they’re going there to protest. Singling out one guy in a crowd though can be tough if they wanted to remove him.

I think, as you do, that the interviewers knew in advance what the HS player was up to, and did “egg him on” as you expressed it.

In the AU incident, camera/mic cut away immediately.

I can’t help but think that if Chung’s comments had not gone on live mic, the entire incident would have not happened.

I’m not a fan of Asmon but I couldn’t help and watch through my WoW feed on YT with most of my subscribed-to people jumping in on the issue. He mentioned something about a recorded delay which I’ve heard of some live televisions doing in case things go wrong. You think this would’ve led to the same turnout? It’s similar to what you

Oh yes, let’s just roll over and let other countries murder anyone they please without even a whimper.

I can see you’re a graduate of the Neville Chamberlain School of Appeasement.

Well, here in the USA live tv has been dead for years, mostly because of unpredictable and embarrassing things people said.

We now (and for decades) have a 7-10 second delay before a “live” tv feed is broadcast.

A lot of people thought the same, which I think was the original cause for this huge outburst. I didn’t think it was excessive at first until I did some research on usual causes and punishments to those who break HS tourny rules. That and well being here on the forums lol

Even if the camera and mic cut away after they made their stance, the players in question were still expressing divisive political views using blizzards platform

Which they are contractually obligated to punish.

Why did blizzard ignore their own contract by letting it slide without mention and immediately inviting them back. Even though they knew off camera the team was attempting to violate their contract

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I think Twitter and social media organizations start doing something similar.