Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

And I’m playing devil’s advocate. The difference between this and the NFL is the NFL protests were more polarizing. Pretty much everyone here agrees Hong Kong needs support. The rules are basically the same but in this case Blizzard is technically taking the neutral stance.

My take on this is simple. What would Blizzard accomplish by choosing a side? This is a matter we as concerned citizens need to take up with our government representatives.

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Sorry, but no one here is fighting for freedom. Your sub cancellation and forum posts are nothing but the lowest bar of virtue signaling. You’re not brave for supporting freedom and human rights. I think we all do. Chung Ng Wai was very brave for doing what he said on the stream. I really don’t think his goal was to get a bunch of people to quit Warcraft.

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Based on their own wording, Blizzard thinks that being pro-Freedom is something that will damage the Blizzard brand.

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It is a small part of building up international pressure on China. I am not the President of the United States, I can only do what I can do.

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Yep, that’s one thing these bootlicking, brown nosing Blizzdrones aren’t wanting to accept. It’s a ridiculous ToS which can literally be applied to anything anyone says and Blizzard decided to use it against someone addressing human right violations occurring in a country that just so happens to contribute a large portion of their income. Only people who stab themselves in their own eyes are blind to what’s going on here.

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Lol! Exactly! I feel like i’m taking crazy pills with the way people are responding to this.

You are most definitely incorrect. It might not be to the point of blod and violence, yet but advocacy for change is fighting what currently exists. Do not demean and denigrate the actions of others based on some preconceived goalpost that says you must be doing xyz before you are fighting for change. Sub cancellations are a perfectly valid form of protest. Bravery has many faces but it is quite obvious to me that cowardice and cynicism has altered your features.

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Don’t project your lack of conviction to change onto others. If you are weak and can’t change the way you live when presented with a good motive that’s fine.

We aren’t all mentally weak like you. All this statement does is expose you for being exactly that.

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Free speech is a principle that exists before the first amendment to the US Constitution.

That the first amendment doesn’t speak to corporate or private censorship doesn’t mean that the principle of free speech shouldn’t exist or be striven for in those contexts.

It just means the the founders didn’t believe the government had the right, authority, or need to enforce it in those contexts. Most likely they just didn’t foresee entities with powers of censorship that rivaled and surpassed a government.

The first amendment is basically the powerful shouldn’t use their power to silence the weak.

I agree completely that people should be directing their complaints to their congress and senate reps. This topic is only here because this particular issue involved a player of a blizzard game on a blizzard stream. I would argue that the firing and banning of people was indeed taking a side and if the Mandarin language memo that Blizzard supposedly released is true, then they tacitly stated they sided with the Chinese government. I don’t know if the memo was a fake real or accurately translated though.

Just learned about this.

Absolutely disgusting move by Blizz.

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If Blizzard was against free speech they’d have shut down Asmongold, Preach, Heels, and many others that paint Blizzard in a negative light all the time.

Blizzard could, if they wanted to, strike them all down with copyright claims and not allow their game to be streamed at all. Blizzard doesn’t do that. The guy was heard, his speech was put out there for anyone to hear. He’s paying the consequence of that speech.

Like the leftists always love to say, “freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences!”

But if you are punishing someone for their speech that is pro-freedom, that means you are anti-freedom.

If I punish someone for saying racist things, that makes me anti-racist.

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Those guys actually make Blizzard earn a lot of money.

Racism is speech. I’m free to be racist if I want to be but there will be consequences. See how that works?

Of course, I literally just said that.

I’d like proof of that. I’m sure they’ve dissuaded as many as they’ve brought into the fold.

I hope you see the irony in this post because if not the cognitive dissonance is palpable.

I just want to point out that the young man making these statements knew this would be a possible outcome. He also was not able to do it anonymously as many of the masked face protesters do to protect themselves from the government.

When I look at all the people blaming blizzard and unsubbing and what not I become fairly disappointed. I respect what this young man did and the risks he took. I also do not think he did it so some of us would blame blizzard.

If you want to do something, call your congress man/women, call your senators. Look for ways to support the cause if you believe in it. Don’t detract by making this about how many people unsubb from blizz games.

Stop with the hate, its nothing but a way to pigeon hole your point of views and lock your mind set into an emotional state. Once hate is involved in a persons choices and views they rarely if ever are reasonable towards any other persons point of view. Hate is bad, has been since before we had a word for it.

That is pretty much how it reads to me as well. Seems legit, they aren’t forcing anyone to follow it who hasn’t already agreed to follow it. It also is so wide open they can pick and choose their actions.

At their discretion, yes.

At their discretion, yes.

You should start openly protesting at where you work. You can only do what you can do.