I wonder how long it will take until it will rip itself in twain, trying to do two polar opposite things?
China could take over the US simply by calling in all our loans.
Child, sit down, and actually learn how trade wars work, and about who wears the pants when one side has more manufacturing and a higher population than you do, while also owning the majority of your debts.
And as for ‘glassing Beijing’, you do understand that China has nukes, too, right? And that those nukes would be on their way to the US the moment we launched, right? Unless you’re suggesting that we smuggle in a suitcase bomb like terrorists? There is a REASON no one has nuked cities since WWII. The ‘Mutual’ part of Mutually Assured Destruction is a real killer.
I kinda think you overestimate China here.
If china had the capability to easily win a war with every other country literally against them…
Why haven’t they done it already?
It’s because the war could go either way. And if Amercia WERE going to fall to “communists” you can bet your sweet cheeks that someone insane person is going to get those launch codes and damn everyone to hell before China wins.
I kinda think you’re drastically overestimating the US’s support, here. Most of NATO aren’t fans of ours right now. Russia is definitely not our friend. The Middle East still hates us. Africa is a hellhole. South America doesn’t like us much, either. Mexico and Canada are also tired of our drek. Our list of allies grows short.
China wouldn’t have to lift a finger to bring the US to its knees. They own 39% of our debt. The simple act of calling in their markers would send our economy into a tailspin. The only reason they haven’t done it is because their long term goals are best served with having leverage on us.
Now were talking about a nuclear war? Earth will be a wasteland like Fallout games. Everywhere you see would be a dry desolate wasteland.
I wonder if Blizzard has the balls to say “Our Taiwan division acted out of turn, and has taken action against a beloved Hearthstone Grandmaster. For this we have taken steps to ensure it does not happen again, and reversed the decisions made by our Taiwan division.”
Even if it were true, or weren’t true, I wonder if the PR nightmare would reverse itself or not.
It’s such an interesting concept. A company growing so big, attempting to please so many different people, nations and governments that it ends up fighting itself to do so…
Their goal is to make games and profit. It is in any multinational company’s interest to NOT be involved in politics,
100% their purpose is to make money. That is the only thing that matters. Hence they stood on American virtues of free speech as that would hurt their bottom dollar there (although it sounds like a rogue decision).
100% it is in their best interest to stay non political. The best way to do this? Not get involved. Don’t ban anyone. Don’t support anyone. Just don’t get involved. Just shut your trap and keep making games.
This was a bad decision by them for so many reasons.
I didn’t bring up the subject!! Just responding to it!!!
And it’s one we can win. More people will get tired of China, it, like the Soviet Union, will overreach, and then hatred of it will force everyone to side against them. If they try to match us for military spending, they will go the say the over the Iron Curtain.
USA did not win the cold war with USSR. The USSR collapsed from insde. So USA became the only bully in the world.
BTW, do you honestly think other countries in the world prefer USA more than China?
What would happen? China would expel Blizzard and cease relations with Blizzard. And a lot of people in Blizzard’s Asia offices would lose their jobs. It’s a tightrope and Blizzard has chosen to walk it. I doubt that the company is willing to destroy that business relationship because people are upset that they punished this clown for breaking their contest rules.
I mean it could happen in fluffy pink cloud unicorn land, but it is unlikely that any such statement is or will be forthcoming.
Thank you for this post, @Poize. I live in HK too, and support and agree 100 % , your points about blizzard and situation in HK are all on point.
Life in HK is not the same anymore, I wish I have the courage to write/speak out my thought, but I know there are other peoples will say nasty stuff about this subject. So I keep that to myself.
I love playing blizzard games, and I bought my first time blizzcon virtual ticket, I wish we can keep out the politics and let us enjoy the game.
Thanks everyone for thoughtful and civilized discourse. It’s a tough issue and many opinions expressed here have merit.
Let’s hope the issue is happily resolved in one way or another.
Peace to all.
and about who wears the pants when one side has more manufacturing and a higher population than you do
They’ve actually been exporting their manufacturing to poorer nations, now. I say, we keep the pressure up.
Yes, they have cheap garbage that they can pump out. Woo. But, the USA, Europe, Japan, Israel, and the rest of the British Commonwealth nations like India, have all of the creativity and actual wealth. China has abused slave labor. We generate vastly more capital just by farting than they do, as totalitarian government, regardless of how “powerful” and “numerous” they are, are always potemkin villages. They have no solid strength of ideals and wealth.
And as for ‘glassing Beijing’, you do understand that China has nukes, too, right? And that those nukes would be on their way to the US the moment we launched, right? Unless you’re suggesting that we smuggle in a suitcase bomb like terrorists? There is a REASON no one has nuked cities since WWII. The ‘Mutual’ part of Mutually Assured Destruction is a real killer.
Fine. We’ll just settle on economic wars than.
“Our Taiwan division acted out of turn, and has taken action against a beloved Hearthstone Grandmaster. For this we have taken steps to ensure it does not happen again, and reversed the decisions made by our Taiwan division.”
I would instantly forgive them if they did that.
BTW, do you honestly think other countries in the world prefer USA more than China?
Hell yeah, commie
BTW, do you honestly think other countries in the world prefer USA more than China?
Ehhh
Hong Kong and plenty of “china” countries like Taiwan would join us.
Russia ain’t the biggest fans of China I don’t believe. South Korea would love for a chance to get rid of the people defending North Korea from retribution for their actions.
I’d assume a lot of the EU isn’t pleased with China, Britan, assuming they got over their crippling political coma would have been backing Hong Kong already.
Of course- would they ACTUALLY help the USA is another question. I’m sure plenty of them would like to see China go. But they probably wouldn’t be ready or happy to see China’s ROLE in the economy go…
I give it a 50/50. If things get bad enough I think other countries would rather have America be the superpower than China, at least if America comes after everyone else they’ll have their oil assets taken and not their organs…
I would instantly forgive them if they did that.
Which makes it the perfect PR move if they said that and were lying.
I mean it could happen in fluffy pink cloud unicorn land, but it is unlikely that any such statement is or will be forthcoming.
I dunno, a little communication with China that they’re going to lie to the west, a little tribute paid to China here and there and no acknowledgement of what was actually said… It could work.
100% it is in their best interest to stay non political. The best way to do this? Not get involved. Don’t ban anyone. Don’t support anyone. Just don’t get involved. Just shut your trap and keep making games.
They didn’t ban him for his politics. They banned him for breaking his contract and injecting his politics into what was a nonpolitical affair. That was the nonpolitical play to make. If they didn’t ban him, that would have been construed as supporting his political statement, as they allowed him to break contracts and use their ‘nonpolitical’ service as a platform. You keep out of politics by keeping politics off your platform, and ruthlessly smashing anyone who interjects it.
Hope you enjoy virtual blizzcon as I will.
I’m gonna bet there’s gonna be some division amongst the attendees of those attending Blizzcon. If I were going there, I’d want to be there to know more about the games I play, not all of this ;/ If you wanna protest sure do it outside like all protesters do But hopefully it’s kept civil inside.
, and ruthlessly smashing anyone who interjects it.
That’s not how being apolitical works.
Also they fired two casters for hearing the message, stripped his Grandmaster title AND took his winnings.
They are absolutely not being apolitical. They acted in the name of the Chinese agenda.
Being apolitical is cowardly anyway. Politics is everywhere, trying to get rid of it is like trying to shun away reality. It’s childish. Even more so when the games they make already carry heavy political themes and already involve themselves in politics, Overwatch especially!
Lucio is a rebellion leader for gods sake!
Seems Apple has given in to China too. Banning an app the protesters use to track police movements.
USA did not win the cold war with USSR. The USSR collapsed from insde.
Because Reagan forced them into an arms race, predicting that their anti-Capitalism wouldn’t be able to be as quick and wealthy as the USA, which lead to them severely overspending, which combined with the food shortages and crumbling infrastructure, lead to their swift fall. Before the 80s, everyone thought they were an unstoppable juggernaut, only for Reagan to spend them into the grave. We spent 2 trillion, made it all back in four years after Reagan left, and the Soviet Union was consigned to the ashbin of history.
#WINNING!
Banning an app the protesters use to track police movements.
An app they designed I believe, then banning it at China’s requests…
Not sure what apple is doing. Seem to be trying to play both sides.
I give it a 50/50.
Our regime is only kinda bad