Blizz gave Horde easier access to Allied Races in Both Legion and Now BFA

You do know that Horde players could get rep with those same factions, right? You are basically complaining about Horde having it easier, when they had to/could grind exactly the same rep.

You only needed an alliance character to do the unlock quest/scenario.

This horde toon grinded rep for Lightforged, Velves and Nightborne.

Neutral rep is not “easier” for horde. Which is what it was in Legion. Everyone, regardless of faction, could grind that rep but you needed a toon that was faction specific, to unlock them.

Your post is moot.

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A: I’m aware of the change

B: Don’t minimize. None of the Horde unlocks require a dungeon, or a “special” area to grind rep.

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You seem to be confusing “Alliance allied races are harder to unlock than Horde allied races” with “Alliance allied races are too hard to unlock.”

Even if the Alliance dungeon requirements are a relatively low barrier of entry, they’re still more of a barrier than “just do the story”, particularly for solo players and casual players who don’t do instanced group content. Saying “but instanced group content is easy” doesn’t actually change that.

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I don’t feel it’s minimizing to say people will be fine if they have to complete one dungeon. Nor do I feel a dungeon is some horrific undertaking.

Sure, Horde races didn’t have to have a dungeon requirement. Taking an hour to do one dungeon isn’t the end of the world either though. The people complaining about having to do one dungeon should set aside one hour, and go bang it out real quick, rather than arguing on the forums about whether or not it’s good practice for longer.

I’m not confusing it, but I don’t see the big deal at all. It’s a joke of content. It’s meant to encourage people to go out there and do something / earn something. If a solo player wants this, they should go in and get it. Maybe they’ll find a like for group content.

BFA has a ton of issues, but AR requirements on either side isn’t one of them. I actually wish Horde AR’s had some dungeon or raid requirements too.

I don’t care if they make them easier or harder.

The only point I’m making is they didn’t make them EQUAL. Which is basically all the OP was saying.

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I did the main quest and dailies and got legion alliance ones in under a week. Nightborne was impossible to do in 1 week due to blocks.

Nothing has ever been equal in this game, though. Why start now? In the entirety of this game, people have been saying one side has it fair over the other. All of WoD? EMFH dominated the ladder. That wasn’t fair. 95% of the ladder was humans.

Korrak’s Revenge? HORDE BIAS!! How dare the Horde fifteen years ago have a closer spawn point in the middle of the map!

This is nothing new. It’s just people complaining to complain.

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By that reasoning, you’d be fine if the next allied race for the Horde was locked behind winning 50 pet battles, then? I mean, it’s “joke” content, not hard at all, a pet battle only takes a few minutes, and it just requires you to go out there and do something/earn something.

Ah, yes, the good old “eat your vegetables, they’re good for you and you might decide you like them” argument.

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Being straight? I’d be totally fine with this. I love pet battles. I am a gamer in the truest sense of the word. “Hey Shad. There’s a neat reward for this. If you want this thing? Go do the thing that gives the reward.”

Shadina: “Aight, I gotchu.” Hell, I hit 2.1 as a shadow priest in the 2’s bracket. I’ll suffer through anything if it has a reward I want at the end.

Lazy Alliance.

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I want to add a little tidbit for those who immediately jump to “but if you’re playing the game you’d be exalted with all of the reps by now anyway”.

Here’s the thing. When an expansion is new, everything is fresh, everyone is excited to see new content and everyone is working on early pre-raid gearing. At that stage, everything World Quests reward is notably beneficial. The gear, the AP, the resources, all of it will get you jump started in the new content.

So for those first few weeks, yeah, I’m grinding the hell out of World Quests (see: the primary source of rep) and I either finish those reps or get close enough where finishing it up for Pathfinder or whatever isn’t so daunting.

Come x.2 or what have you, that no longer applies.

It’s no longer brand new content. It’s more of what I’ve already seen for the last year. The rewards no longer keep pace with what I have from other sources, and I’m over the AP grind in general.

By the time round 2 of the “mandatory rep grind extravaganza” kicks in, I no longer have the desire to grind out that sort of content. That doesn’t mean I’m not playing the game. It just means I’m not putting my time into something I view as busywork for negligible returns.

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OMG THANK YOU. This is what I’m feeling/trying to communicate.

Problem is, people also jump to: “Since it’s old content, just remove the work and give it to me easy!”. Basically negating all the work the people who were there and playing the game did to unlock those same things.

Please tell me why THAT would be fair.

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you do know that single world quest gives as much rep as an emisarry right?

My friend who came back a week ago having not played since 8.1 is already revered with mechagnomes, only really doing the daily world quest

I dont see the issue.
There has been more than enough time to meet the requirements for all allied races since their respective reveals.

Plus mechagon exalted comes with an essence so you could argue that there is more incentive to complete that rep than voldunai which just has an over priced mount.

And I’m speaking as someone who mained alliance and levelled up my horde alt just to get the rep for Vulpera.

If you don’t have the rep, it simply comes down to you did not want to go and get the rep. And that’s fine, but you dont get to complain.

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Evidently. The complaint is that the unlock doesn’t have equal parity. While it’s not difficult, there’s a difference in how you unlock. The Mechagnomes require a dungeon.

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Still dont see why that’s an issue though…
It’s just a dungeon and one that in a couple of days will be queueable

Horde doesn’t require anything like that, is why it’s an issue. I don’t particularly care - I hate Mechagnomes - but other people do, and they may prefer solo play.

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I suppose but thats like complaining the guy on the table next to you got served a few more fries :stuck_out_tongue:

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This has never mattered previously. It goes like this.

X is a reward.
Y must be completed for the reward.
X is achieved upon completion.

Somebody above asked if I’d be fine with the next Horde AR requiring 50 pet battles. The answer is yes, because if I want something bad enough, and 50 pet battles is all it requires? Hell yeah.

Who cares what the other faction has to do, I want this thing.

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