Blizz, At Some Point, Can we STOP This in Randoms? Please!?

How much is it for an epic bg carry?

I like the one alliance in that pic from staghelm just chilling

Pretty sure bgs try to queue same servers together whenever they can even when not in a group tbh

I get significantly more stormrage alliance people in my bgs when i’m on my stormrage paladin than when i’m on my scryers/forgotten coast/moonguard paladins

Had a bg where our entire twin peaks was from stormrage on alliance side and i wasn’t in a group and everyone was so uncoordinated i doubt they were in a group either, but we prob looked like a 10man premade :woman_shrugging:

I saw the discord last night, has Twitch, amazon, paypal, patreon all as pay to play options. Even saw Archie’s wish list, kek.

SAS can hunt me and my guild all they like, lol. They are mad they got called out for being toxic. And they continue to do so while giving their crappy strats. I try to play nice, but yeah, crappy strats and crappy calls. Don’t cap snowfall, don’t kill Bal…Go XR before ROC…bad calls.

They should let us watch the forum epic bg premades instead of the RMP garbage we get now

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Yes, they all exist. Still doesn’t mean anything. No one has ever had to donate or subscribe to do anything with us.

that’s me at the top of that pic, solo queing btw. Still strange to see almost full gamer squad from sargeras though.

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Some of the main players have YouTube channels and also Twitch.

Speaking of the subject, I just faced a full ten-man premade from Tich. Didn’t stick around too long for that one, haha.

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Here’s a blue post i found stating blizz’s view on premades in random bg ques.

"I’ll try to break it down as clearly as I can:

Any addon that enables a full, organized Battleground group to queue against a randomly assembled group is creating a scenario where that coordinated group has a huge advantage. That is not in the spirit of the experience we want to provide in the normal Battleground queue. Playing with friends is fun and important, but it shouldn’t come at the expense of the spirit of the game nor the fun of others.

The normal Battleground queue is for players to jump in and play against other players in a similar situation. We realize that it’s not a perfect system, and we’re still looking at ways to improve normal Battleground queues further. Regardless, it’s not meant for organized groups to ā€œpug stompā€ and get quick Honor. We have built in outlets for players that want to organize–if a competitive, social experience was really the goal, then there are clear ways to achieve that.

The ultimate effect that this kind of queuing has had is to drive players away from PvP. Perhaps it’s been a long time since you’ve been in a random group, but a lot of players will see that they’re up against a premade and simply quit. At best, they suffer through it. To an extent premade groups count on this. Heck, one of the popular addons announces opposing players that appear to have rage quit.

Addons aren’t really a viable solution for botting issues, but we do take those issues seriously and we’ll continue our work on improvements to the Battleground system, including better ways to deal with botting and other exploitative gameplay."

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im tierd of seing the same bgs pop up every time when i log in to different chrs i tell you bgs arnt random as much as you think they are on a static rotation.

its amazing mow many times i get wintergrasp and ashran then then with in the first 5m of the bgs you can tell if its a win or a loss say gg then leave and wait for another 30m for another wintergrasp…lol.

bring back black listing please blizzard.

No one cares about Greg Street’s opinion. He hasn’t been associated with WoW or the dev team in like 5 expansions.

What addon are premades using?

One side will ALWAYS have some sort of advantage, whether that’s gear, better team comp, or…in the case of premades…more coordination.

Here’s the thing, that’s NOT TRUE for epic BGs.
Rated Epic BGs do not exist!

Yes, if rated epics existed, I’d do less premades, but they don’t!

I think it actually drives people TO joining opposing premades.
One of the reason my own community has been so successful is because Alliance used to ā€œrarely winā€ epic BGs, so when we started giving them wins, many eagerly wanted in.

But bottom line is, no addons are used! In some cases, discord is, but at least for me, mostly everything I do is ALREADY IN GAME.

10/10! Highly recommend those channels! Very entertaining content!

I mean the advantage of having a premade vs a bunch of uncoordinated random is kinda on a different level though.

I’m all for people playing with their friends. 5 man’s should be a thing. Solo que would be a toxic waste land lol… Still voice chatting/syncing more than 5 people into a bg is kinda unnecessary to me.

maybe you should join and get some gear

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a 5 man premade in a 10 man bg is worse

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Eh sorta… I find it’s easier to organize a resistance in a ten man. In an epic people are just so lost and there’s no hope if there’s a group of ten. I don’t play epics anymore though unless I have a squad. They’re pretty boring honestly lol

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No offense dude. but you should probably follow cinco’s and them’s strat or something. i farmed your team at least 5 times in epics on Tuesday lmao. and i only had a party of 5-6 with me.

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We had 5 and the rest were pugs who wouldn’t listen. Not much I can do if they don’t listen. I called a strat and the teams would split three different ways. We lost before we even engaged that night because ppl refused to listen.

I said this recently on Twitter and was met with rotten fruit being thrown at me. It’s a bad joke that they allow this.

It’ll be ok. Life goes on.