Considering the majority of the player base are DPS Warriors, I think that’s probably false.
I actually kind of enjoyed leveling as prot in one of the later expansions. I don’t remember the precise timing anymore, but I think in Wrath? They did something that made leveling as prot much faster–it might have been buffed Revenge damage–so that it was actually kind of fun. It was slow, but you could do everything solo, including most of the instances.
so what this guy is saying that rogues are the prot spec tanks? oh cool okay okay. explain to me what happens next?
I’m hungry… brb?
There are approximately zero tank spots left in the vast majority of respectable guilds.
we had plenty of dps warriors back in the day and they topped the charts. If they didn’t intend it they would have fixed it then.
the reason wow classic is successful is because there is a general understanding that nothing about the game will change from the way it was in patch 1.12 unless blizzard deems it a bug or such. imagine if blizzard cease and desisted all the classic servers, put up their own classic server, then changed class design. like that would be offensive to people who just want to play wow as it was in 2006, and theres a lot of people who are perfectly happy with how it was back then. if it isnt broke dont fix it, thats the most successful strategy when it comes to this game.
Not necessarily true. Developers let plenty of things stay in games that they didn’t intend if it’s not game breaking and the players find it fun. It just doesn’t make sense to me that they intended for warriors to be the best tank AND the best dps. No other class in the game is top tier in two things.
I can assure you that even in vanilla, the difference in dps between an arms/fury warrior and a prot were still HUGE. The main reason they may not have topped the charts in vanilla were because of gearing. Most warriors wore full t1 gear because they thought that was what they were supposed to wear. I had r13 pvp gear and switched to fury to pve after the grind, and I can assure you that I did more than my fair of dps back then. Probably complete crap by todays standards though lol.
Not where I played they didnt. They just didn’t wear leather, hit or edgemasters. And competed with ret for gear.
Enter TBC…
I agree, as long as they also restrict Priests to healing specs.
Dude, on Phase One warriors didn’t even have Bloodthirst.
Well, they shouldn’t have had it, at least. We got 1.12 phase one.
This. 100% this. The only thing that should be questionable is how much DPS they can output, but even that shouldn’t be touched. Let Classic be Classic and let Warriors become more tanky in TBC.
While I agree with this, every class had changes in 1.12 that were pretty big improvements. I don’t think that singling out Warriors is the best way to go about this topic. If the topic is “give us 1.01 skills and trees and then progress us through the time” then that’s a whole different conversation. One that I would welcome because it would be pretty fun I think.
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Also I am pretty sure he was talking P1 of Classic, not P1 of Vanilla.
It was also harder to be a DPS warrior back then. The threat meters were all sorts of shaky and could really only be described as estimates. The MTs were all deep prot spec’d and you were lucky if you had one with TF. Understanding of the classes in general wasn’t nearly as refined as it is today. Rogues were lucky because we had shadowpanther.net and even that site couldn’t give more than a very very good general understanding of gearing. I haven’t seen a similar site for other classes.
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All that is intended to agree with you btw lol.
I agree. I remember waiting like 20 seconds to dps on bosses for MT pulling aggro, and still pulling threat sometimes on bosses because of spamming heroic strike. I remember wishing that HS only had a threat increase in defensive stance
There are more than enough dps roles without shadow priests. No logical reason exists for allowing priests to spec DPS. You should be required to spec holy.
Maybe you were playing with Bad Warriors?
The point I was making is that Warriors were intended to be a DPS class from the start. They were also intended to be Tanks. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Arguing that they were never meant to DPS is daft and there is nothing to back that up.
Lol. Uhm no. People didnt assume tier gear was always better.
They didn’t? Coulda fooled me.
I agree they definitely didn’t, but warriors also weren’t getting leather and mail gear over rogues and shamans like they do nowadays.
This i’ll agree with. It was a little late in the game when people realized how well warriors scaled.