we all know that pallies need a buff when it comes to utility or movement. i would 100% love to get rid pf bubble and bop for something more skillful. i would not mind if we sacrificed damage for better utility. something that keeps us in the fight longer. either that or BUFF THE WOG. IGNORE THE PEOPLE WHO THINK PALLYS “ONE SHOT” or the ones who say “BUBBLES OP” the heals were not 'OP" YOUR JUST TOO USED TO BFA’s pally. “oh what? pally actually has a good utility and actually does something to keep itself alive? let me complain in the forums that i actually have to think and work to kill a pally.”
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what do u mean u need a buff u got blessing of freedom u got bubble u got divine stead. more than that rets need a little bit of nerfing to there templar verdict sometimes getting a 13k or higher crit hit
You also have a shield. You also have disengage, feign death which can be turned into a debuff purge by a legendary, all of your damage is done at range meaning you don’t have to spend your movement abilities to close distance, you have multiple forms of CC and slows, one of which CAN’T be dispelled, and you have a heal which doesn’t dip into your DPS to use on the spot.
What is your point?
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many of us knew this nerf was coming but many cry for pally healing abilities over actual dmg mitigation, that’s 1 reason I had suggested this; because unless we get real dmg mitigation this crap with healing will always be an issue. This already happened in the past, and this is simply a repeat of it.
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you mustive forgotten that u guys have a bubble the gives u immune to all forms of damage and damage anyone while in it. turtle shield only gives immune to damage but not to dots plus we cant cast anything in it. just be glad there isnt a legendary that gives us that effect plus u have healing capability right now hunter only has exhilaration and phials of serenity from kyrian. plus a good paladin can easlly catch up to a hunter if they play right
paladins can one shot just from playing battlegrounds which right is random theres no match making so a 36k to 40k hp ret paladin can one shot a person from a 13k crit templar verdict if that person is just getting a alt up
Fixed that for you.
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Just about any dps spec can do this, or at least in 1-2 globals…that’s not an issue with Paladins, that’s bad gear/scaling design IMO. You’re punished way too hard for leveling an alt to 60, starting late, or taking time off.
Don’t get me wrong, there is clearly strong/weak specs in pvp, Ret is in a good spot overall, and there is some questionable damage design/setups…but I agree with OP, I’d gladly give something up for say a skill shot, movement ability to up the skill ceiling and make the gameplay more “fun” and interactive.
But complaining about Paladins like there aren’t other classes/specs doing this and some of them much better is laughable.
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ret paladin needs to be buffed. survivability wise. the way this is going, its gonna be bFa again. we NUUD THE BUFF HAMMER. ignore the scrub trolls who get mad because they have to actually work and think to fight a pally.
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This, we die too easily to fire mages within a combustion which last so damn awfully long.
bull u have bubble ur wings also increase basically reversing the nerfs to word of glory plus u have a aura that makes u pop wings when someone dies right now rets need an a serious nerf to crit damage
A good paladin can catch up with a hunter, a good hunter will let them do this to waste their movement CD’s, and then kite them. At a equal skill level, a hunter will always be able to kite a paladin.
WOG is an instant heal for 15%-30% of your health without wings. At least on my lvl 50 ret. Most other classes either get no heals, or less frequent instant heals for small chunks, or they need to cast a heal. WoG to me is fine, and people who are complaining about getting killed haven’t played any other classes recently. Almost everyone is getting one shot. This isn’t Ret specific. DH is squishier than Ret right now, and so are multiple other classes. Some don’t even get instant heals. I think WoG healing would be appalling if it was like a 1.5 sec cast spell, but for an instant cast that heals on average for 20% of your health even after nerfs, it’s not that bad compared to a lot of other specs.
There is a specs with better off-healing after nerfs. Feral druid for example. But Feral still ranks lower than Ret on the latter on average. Why do you think that is? If OP heals on feral can’t make feral pull ahead, Ret clearly still has advantages.
Personally I’d like them to remove the bonus healing based on low HP from Ret altogether. That was a mistake to begin with, and there should have been some kind of other dampening effect related to it.
Like make it reduce incoming magic damage by 20% for 3 seconds, or the next spell cast on you does 50% less damage or something in that range. Or Make it so flash of Light casts 33% faster and costs 33% less mana for the next 6 seconds. So instead of being a spell you constantly use in an engagement it’ll be reserved for recovery situations. Most off-healers have to run behind a pillar and drain their mana bar to get their health back. That is the way hybrid classes used to heal, and I think that’s the way it should be.