20+ minute solo shuffle queue times are unacceptable for dps. Just copy and paste the rated bg rating formula into blitz so we can have rated pvp with reasonable queue times. Make tweaks to the mode and rating system as we go. Please don’t slow-roll this into the next expansion just so it can be used to sell the next xpac.
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Play a healer. There’s a reason why DPS is getting such high queue times.
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that is not a solution.
if healing in the arena didn’t feel like Dog poop, then more people will be open to do so.
Arena in general Sucks. It simply just sucks. The way arena is designed around sucks, especially for healers.
No healer likes to feel weak because of Dampening.
its already bad healing in Arena with the 1 shot randomly going out in combination with the 100000 cc and interrupts that never seem to hit a DR, meanwhile Your DPS are on another planet line of sitting you. it’s super stressful and unfun.
healing in BGS however, is ironically not stressful and fun. The day they ruin it is the day that the same behavior will occur in blizz.
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Agreed. People have asked for a solo queue rated battleground format for a few years now. But…
And there is the elephant in the room.
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Dampening exists so games don’t last forever which they would and kind of already do with the healer buffs.
Nothing really seems to matter until at least 50% dampening and cc got nerfed as well and on top of that healer trinkets cd got lowered.
And if you have dps who have a brain then most wont line you like you are saying.
It’s not uncommon in blitz and in rated bgs for teamfights to drag out well over 5 minutes because no healer can die and because nobody else can really die cause they are all full health in a instant cast.
And also this expansion tried to and has largely succeeded in toning down burst damage and moving more towards consistent damage and far as i see they want to continue in that direction.
There are many changes that have been made to try and incentivize healers
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My queues were pretty fast not being fotm.
this is a class design issue.
they focus on pve not pvp. dampening is just a band-aid to a problem they won’t fix. And its a bad one. As long as this exist, healing will be poop in arena. including the other factors like CC and brain-dead players in the mix who are hyper-stuck in the melee train.
The CC is still way too much. Casters have to deal with too much still.
meanwhile, DH and rogues this current season.
Not enough changes… sorry. I can i speak this loudly as a shadowpriest. This spec gotten the most reworks by far and they still keep fing it up because its poorly thought out and executed. just like most of their work, rushed and poorly executed.
the next expansion is literally 90 bucks. They need to be doing more for that price tag. way more.
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I see 3 main offenders who stand head and shoulders above every other class in terms of cc and those are
1.rogue
2.mage
3.druid
And perhaps not coincedentally all 3 of those classes just so happen to be s tier literally every patch in the history of the game.
Every other classes level of cc seems pretty ok to me but these 3 can literally cc you out of the game on demand at any point they choose and spam it at that with no cd.
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Neither is simply making it rated. Obviously, to a lot of people, healing isn’t fun and it isn’t worth it. That’s the issue, and as you stated yourself, it sucks for healers in general especially in arena.
Healing in BGs is more tolerable, but there’s a reason why even in RBGs you don’t see many healers. This queue time problem is because there’s not enough healers, simply making it “go rated” isn’t going to solve your queue time of 20 minutes for DPS. More people need to play healer, but people aren’t going to if it isn’t worth it.
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the current rated BG system we have sucks dog poop too. I can’t even get into a group.
The rated battleground blitz is literally doing so well. The only issue it has currently is that it is not fully LIVE.
Rated BGs should have come first over SOlO shuffle. As soon as its live, everyone will jump into blitz and solo shuffle will become yesterdays thing.
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Yes Blizzard, Take a chance on me. If you change your mind, take a chance on blitz.
I think a lot of people don’t seem to understand most people simply don’t want to play healers, for various reasons, and nothing will really change their mind. I honestly don’t think asking people to play healers will fix anything. That will never be the fix. People don’t want to do it. But to ‘blame’ them for that is dumb. Not saying you are, but I see that attitude sometimes.
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Absolutely agreed.
Blizzard needs to cut the **** out and release the mode we all want to play already.
Blitz will save WoW PVP.
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I think more people enjoy playing healers in Battlegrounds over Arena when it comes to pugs. Healing in Arena has a higher responsibility than DPS. In BG you can rez and try again and you have about 15minutes to do so.
I know the above is true for me, I really dislike healing arena and the intensity it plays at compared to BG’s where it is objective based and things can change on a dime.
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Buff healers by another 50% I can’t see no reason as to why healers shouldn’t be overtuned so we can get into the solo shuffle healer lottery faster where 2 players will completely decide the fate of the other 4 non-wingods.
This is me. I LOVE playing MW Monk in BGs. I hate playing heals of any kind in arena. The general toxicity is always aimed at the healers as well.
I am in average 2100+ Lobbies in Blitz, and it is SOOO much fun to heal. Yeah I get cced or focused, but damn is it a good time. Don’t mind it one bit.
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I don’t know that that’s entirely true , I made a monk last season because there was a healer shortage and man it’s some of the most fun I’ve had in wow. It’s nice to change it up and play a different side of the game when your main is geared up. Besides with how easy leveling is I think everyone should give it a try. It’ll make you a better player having in game experience with roles you don’t truly know imo. It’s kinda like playing a rogue doesn’t make me a good mage but it does let me know what when and where rogues do better thus making me a better mage.
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Well, I think BG forum posters are kinda different, as well as the teensiest portion of the playerbase.
We’d need the majority of the playerbase to enjoy PvP - but I’d argue they don’t, because most are PvEers and, of those, they’re intimidated by PvP in its current state probably largely because of the hardercore PvP ‘community.’ But if we could get the majority of this game’s players to embrace PvP I do think we’d see more healers because the pool of people wanting to play healers will increase dramatically.
I am a lost cause trying to be convinced to play a healer in any PvP. I don’t bash healers in games. But i have noticed the blitzes my team has done well in have had good healers who know where they need to be, as opposed to just following the DPS road fighting.