Ok so I hear often about people putting people on black lists or kill on sight lists or any list for behavior they don’t condone, etc.
My question is… how does one maintain this? I mean I imagine someone sitting down playing with notepad/word open or a piece of paper next to them or something with random names written down and offenses next to them lol. I mean is there some list you guys reference? I’ve had people annoy me too but like 1-3 days later I can’t remember their names for the life of me. What all do you guys do to self enforce these lists? I’m not necessary asking to start utilizing it, more so I want to know if these threats people dish out have any substance to them. It’d be tedious to cross check every single person I meet with some “list” someone has.
Everyone has a “blacklist”, if you play the game long enough. It doesn’t need to be a physical list of names, just a “Oh, this person is extremely frustrating, I’d better avoid them in the future”, type of thing. There are a small amount of unpleasant/selfish people that you’ll eventually interact with, you’ll want to prevent future interactions and a blacklist is how you remember their names.
It can be a physical list, if the number is small enough you can probably just remember it. I personally have a simple word document.
I use mine for personal use only, the (very few) people in it have no idea I have put them there. I don’t try to dissuade others from interacting with them ect.
That’s interesting. I wonder how many people go that far.
I know that at least some of the server-specific forums have channels for reporting players for bad behavior. On the Kurinnaxx discord, for example, there is such a channel, as well as a Blacklisted Players channel. Apparently, a moderator of that discord will review the report, and accompanying screenshots to determine if that qualifies for the Blacklisted Players channel.
I have also heard of guilds maintaining lists, presumably in some sort of shared cloud-based document or spreadsheet, or perhaps a guild discord channel with pins, etc.
Personally, I’ve run into people I would probably rather not run into again, but I do not and have never kept a black list.
Those using the Spy addon can add players to a KoS list (they can also tag those players with a reason if they desire). The addon will use an alternate sound to notify you when someone from your KoS list has been detected. It also records your win/loss ratio against those players.
Pretty much all automated, and ensures you get your revenge.
A problem I could easily see arising from blacklists is the lack of evidence. Who is to say that a person isn’t lying about their reasons for blacklisting a player?
A person reports a ninja looter in World chat, how seriously am I suppose to take that without knowing exactly what happened? Not very. I blacklist based on personal interaction exclusively, and do not enforce it on others for that exact reason.
@Elite
That’s very interesting, and takes a step toward providing some due process to the blacklisting process. The skeptical side of me still fears character assassination (too dramatic but I couldn’t think of a softer term) but I must admit the screenshots provide a lot of transparency.
Certainly. And, taken to the extreme, one could imagine using Photoshop or a similar program to forge evidence, or even rolling characters of the same names on different servers or private servers to fake conversations for their screenshots.
One could also consider that the maintainers of these community discords are somewhat self-appointed, though truth be told, I’m not sure what the process is and/or whether there is any sort of oversight by Blizzard and/or the community. I also don’t particularly care, though I suppose most people don’t until/unless they are affected by it.
I maintain a blacklist and whitelist. With memory as poor as mine, you kind of have to.
Regardless, maintaining lists is a great way to build community. If you don’t write down the who and the why how are you going to know how to personalize the dagger in their back?
I mean there’s an actual addon that you can add players name into a KoS list; and will change the font color of their name if theyre detected in the world. Soo…that’s how
Thats exactly the hurdle I encountered when I started thinking about making a proper blacklist mod.
Youd need teams to properly moderate that, someone to independently verify evidence (which can mostly be faked), someone to judge it.
Then how do you assign a punishment? If someone accidentally ninjas an item, how do you about proving intent? What is a fair punishment? Who watches the watchdogs?
I mean f8ck me, this are literal problems that have existed in our judiciary for the past few hundred years, let alone in a game.
“Blacklist” is just an expression and not necessarily an actual, written, list. It’s simply people you or your friends/guild had a bad experience wish and you all choose not to group with them in the future.
For example, I played on a pretty low pop realm back in Wrath - one of those realms that had a small town feel to it because pretty much everyone knew each other. There was a death knight on that server that was just dumber than a box of rocks, I’m talking intellect gear and spirit gems kind of dumb. Plenty of people tried to talk him about how to properly gear and spec his character, but he didn’t want to listen and was downright nasty to anyone who tried to help. His bad reputation led to him never being able to find a guild and never getting invited to PUG raids. In other words, he was blacklisted.
There are addons you can use, that place a player on a list and immediately alert you if they are seen in the combat log, meaning they are close to you. The spy addon is one of these.
I have a mod that does it for me. Its useful to keep track of horde that will attack, so I know to take first strike even when I don’t really feel like fighting at the time.