I’m using the standard Improved Slam Spec in raiding content.
What is the best possible weapon I can hope to get my hands on right now?
Ashkandi sounds nice for base weapon damage and attack power. But so does the Untamed Blade with that 300 Str proc. And then Bonereavers Edge proc sounds even more sick.
Does it come down to preference or is there actually a true right answer?
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Interesting! Thank you for the link! Most sources claimed that BRE is ABSOLUTE BiS for the entirety of the game but I just knew there had to be another answer. Ashkandi base damage seems so hard to overlook.
It’s really good for PVP but in PVE the bosses already have such low armor that it’s kind of useless.
I can’t find it but there is a spreadsheet breaking down most of the 2hand weapons for PVP purposes showing how much damage they would do vs each type of armor and BRE is actually better than the Kel’Thuzad mace in PVP at 3 stacks.
If your guild only uses sunder armor then run the BRE.
Every guild should at least be using Faerie Fire, or a Bashguuder if not that. I’m my guild’s Annihilator and I’ve had to drop it due to threat penalties, since our DPS has gotten so ridiculous.
| Best | Bonereaver’s Edge | Dropped by Ragnaros | Raid - Molten Core |
|---|---|---|---|
| Optional | High Warlord’s Greatsword | Rank 14 PVP | PVP Vendor |
| Optional | High Warlord’s Battle Axe | Rank 14 PVP | PVP Vendor |
| Optional | The Untamed Blade | Dropped by Razorgore the Untamed | Raid - Blackwing Lair |
| Optional | Blackblade of Shahram | Dropped by General Drakkisath | Dungeon - Upper Blackrock Spire |
| Enchant | Enchant Weapon - Crusader | Enchant Recipe Formula: Enchant Weapon - Crusader | Enchanting |
Ashlandi > UTB > BRE > OEB
BiS for warriors BRE for two hander warrior for ever. The armor debuff on the player. If you -armor more dmg.
PvP or PVE. It’s just that good
In no way shape or form is UTB ahead of BRE for any content. It only beats OEB for pve content if your human. It’s proc rate is bad.
I suggest you join the Fight Club warrior Discord for classic, lots of great info on there.
For PvE if your guild is using more than sunder armor for armor reduction (faerie fire, etc.), then Ashkandi or rank 14 weapons for single target and BRE for multiple targets. Since the armor pen proc counts as a buff towards the player, the true value of the weapon is in cleave situations where not every add has armor reduction debuffs.
If your guild is not using more than sunder armor, then use BRE for both single target and multiple. Bosses have lower armor in general than you would expect, so using sunder armor, faerie fire, etc. can bring them close to zero, which devalues the buff for single target.
UTB is not a good option. In classic, the proc has been found to be about 1 ppm, so on average your dps will be lower than other weapons. Like someone said, with the proc active it can be considered the highest dps weapon in the game, but it happens so infrequently as to not be worth it.
Are 2h warriors even a thing in PVE? My guild’s raid leader only wants DW fury warriors for the ones not tanking.
There’s not much of a point to it on Alliance, but if you get something like BRE and only have blue weapons, it can be a dps increase. I wouldn’t recommend using the slam spec though, after the auto slam nerf.
That is verbatim from Fight Clubs Bis list actually. It’s possible they’re wrong, I havent simmed it because 2h fury 
… but they have it as Ash > UTB > BRE
Interesting, I thought the conclusion of almost everyone there was that the proc rate was too low. I know some lists specify Horde vs Alliance, I can see maybe with hamstring spamming for Windfury procs it can be worth it, but I personally wouldn’t use it on Alliance.
While 2hand warriors and arms are not “supposed” to raid, some of us do. I do just fine and beat out many fury. I do decent dmg and we have every raid on farm so it works for us. Personally, I would switch to fury but can’t roll on fury weapons for now since fury get priority. I would like BRE, Ash or UB but really can’t complain at the moment. I replaced my oeb with Spinal Reaver. I know I should use swords but the dmg is just too good. I will switch back when I get a drop I want.
I wouldn’t say they aren’t “supposed” to, but rather that it’s recommended to be dual wield fury because it outperforms 2h fury and especially arms by a wide margin, particularly on Alliance.
If a 2h warrior is outperforming dw fury, it’s either a significant gear difference or the DW warrior is parsing very low. Arms especially is not recommended because MS knocks off more important buffs. If your guild allows you to MS, then it is being done to the detriment of everyone else in the raid.
Also, OEB is still a better raid weapon and should do more damage than SR due to the weapon skill.
Absolutely, it is all guild relative so if you’re doing well then have at it. I’m not bashing your choice, my alt is a ret paladin so 
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However, relative to the tens of thousands of warrior parses logged I would say your fury warriors are underperforming.
Regarding OEB, without knowing your gear I can’t sim it to show the numbers. It may even be different for you since MS benefits from the higher end weapon damage, whereas with fury BT relies only on AP.
Both of our Sulfuras warriors (whom also have BRE) raid as 2h Fury. They function as our tertiary tanks for trash and certain bosses. It’s not a big deal, though, since our guild’s overall damage is utterly ridiculous.
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