So I upgraded my 32’ 1440 monitor recently to the G9 49’ Odyssey. After setting it up, I noticed WoW runs significantly worse than before. I think it ranged from 60-90fps. Now it ranges from 7-30 FPS max. And thats at MUCH lower settings than before when they were maxed out. IDK what I’ve done to cause this or what I need to upgrade to get it back to that place. Or preferably higher FPS. Currently running with an i9 1300 series and RTX 3060. 64GB of Corsair Vengence RAM. Its driving me mad and I don’t live near any decent PC shops. S.O.S.
Bigger monitors need better gear.
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Monitor size does exactly nothing to change performance. A 32" 2560 x 1440 screen will run identically to a 7" or an 80". But when you change the resolution and the aspect ratio things can change significantly.
Straight up the G9 has twice the number of pixels of your previous screen. WoW in particular is quite sensitive to pixel throughput. It’s not linear, in so much as doubling the pixels won’t halve the performance, but it can still be significant. If Render Scale was working properly you could set it to 71% to reduce the effective resolution and recover some performance, but at the moment that’s just going to make it run worse (I lose about a third of my performance by doing that).
Going to a double-wide from a regular wide can also change the load, depending on how WoW handles the aspect ratio. If it’s a straight-up Hor+ system then you’re potentially getting twice the viewing angle - twice as much potential geometry and map data to prepare, twice as many potential models to draw. If it’s a Vrt-, this could actually reduce things - though not to the same extent. I’m not sure which WoW is, but it will change what is and isn’t visible at any given time and that will affect your performance.
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sounds like you need a new graphics card and maybe some more ram.
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So, are you still on 1440p, or did your giant 49" (inch, I presume) monitor upgrade your resolution?
If it did, chances are your 3060 isn’t keeping up well, since it’s not a great 1440p-tier card to begin with.
First thing they mention is they went to a G9 Odyssey. It’s still technically 1440p in that it’s 1,440 pixels tall and progressive scan - but instead of being 2,560 pixels wide like their 32" it’s twice that at 5,120 pixels. Even if their previous screen was an ultrawide (I’m unaware of any manufacturer making a 32" ultrawide panel) that’s still going from 3,440 to 5,120 for a near-50% increase.
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So yes, it’s more pixels. So I definitely need an upgrade. But how much of an upgrade am I looking to run smoothly again? Should I go to the 4080 or 4090? Or is there something that would be cheaper to achieve a solid FPS? I intend on upgrading anywas in a year or so but I don’t wanna ride the struggle bus till then.
I just got a 4080 super and it easily handles 3440x1440 while playing a 1080p video on a second monitor.
With the higher refresh rate cable on the big screen wow is more than stable at 90FPS. Seems capable of the full 160fps, but I don’t really see a reason to push the system that much.
Your new monitor is not even close to the same resolution. Its 5120x1440p in resolution.
This is quite a bit larger than 2560x1440p. So of course it’s going to need more graphic processing power.
If you look it’s more than double the resolution in one of the Dynamics than your old 2560x1440p. Ironically in World of Warcraft this Falls more on your CPU and Ram than GPU even at 1440p and yes even at 4K. However all three still do remain relevant
For example before my newest build that I’m currently on now. I had a friend on an RTX 4080 while I am on an RTX 4090. Yet we both had identical CPUs and RAM. We got identical FPS in WoW. Obviously in just about any other game I left him in the dust. Wow is just such an old game and it’s more cpu-based so CPU and RAM are number one and GPU is number two when it comes to frame rates
It will 100%. That’s an amazing 1440p card and pretty much top of the line for it. It’s even decent at 4K. His resolution however is quite a bit larger than that on that 49 inch monitor in one of the dynamics. He is at 5120x1440p. The 5120 is what’s killing his current rig. He pretty much needs a 4K setup.
This is your problem OP
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Most of these samsung 32:9 monitors are essentially two 16:9 monitors stapled together. He’s basically running two 1440p monitors at this point. Your posts are spot on.
The 4090 is pretty much the premier 4k gaming GPU, and it’s the best money can buy right now (it’s like $1800). The 4080 ($1200 for cheapest I’ve seen) and 7900 XTX ($880? cheapest) can also do 4k, too. Anything below that (like my 7900 XT) aren’t as effective. A lot of people have driver issues on the 7900 XTX, though I’ve had none on my 7900 XT.
Probably just grab the 4080 (whichever variation is most cost effective) if you don’t plan on doing actual 4k. The 4090 requires a lot of juice, and generates a fair bit of heat for its power. If you can find one for a lot cheaper, a 3090 would be good, too. I advise ensuring your GPU choice has 16 gigs of VRAM for future proofing purposes. Nvidia is stingy with VRAM on their mid-range stuff.
You don’t need anything as extreme as a 4080 or 4090. Anything approaching around a 3080 or 4070 would be more than enough for WoW. Unless you play other games that are more demanding then you might want to look at the higher end offerings.
We’re probably getting new nvidia cards this year too, those cards are a year and a half old now.
Read my comment above yours. His resolution is NOT really 1440p its closer to 4k and will require the same computer power as 4k. His old monitor was 2560x1440p his new one is 5120x1440p thats a MASSIVE jump! Heck 4k is 3840. I descried the issue pretty well above.
Yes he does! When you are close to 4k resolution you need a 4k rig. A monitor resolution is W x H. The new Width resolution is what is killing his rig. It cant handle it. People need to pay attention to to both parts of the dynamic in the resolution when looking at monitors. Not just the “x1440p”.
Only if they are higher resolution which his 100% is. By a LOT. However a 32" 2560x1440p and a 42" 2560x1440p wont require a change at all. The pixels are the same on both so the required compute power is the same. The 42" would just have a more blurred/pixelated image because 42" is too big for that resolution.
Not even Close. Hes at 5120x1440. 1440p is 2560x1440. He did a massive jump in resolution and his rig cant handle it
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I was agreeing with you on the resolution part, 2 1440p monitors is a lot more to run than his old single 1440p monitor.
As for his GPU he absolutely does not need a 4080 for just WoW. If he’s playing other triple A games then sure he needs that but this game’s easy to run.
I’m still using my 3080ti on a 7680x2160 for WoW and it’s fine. Most of the settings are cranked up and I’m over 100 FPS everywhere except valdrakken which is closer to 60-70.
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This is true. I guess I missed the part here he said its just for wow. I tend to assume people play more than one game. Thats my bad. Sorry
Sadly though with wow you do need a top notch CPU and Fast Ram unless you are on a X3D CPU. Like the 5800x3D. WoW is a CPU game and your CPU/Ram Choice will have the biggest impact on your player experience aka 1% lows and Raid FPS
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Yeah it’s a fair take. I just know from my friend group there’s a lot of people who only use their PC for WoW. If he’s playing other games he definitely should invest in a better GPU.
For me I’m holding out for the 5000 series. I want a card with DP 2.1 on it.
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If the rumors are true from the leakers the 5070 will top the 4090 in RT 4k gaming not sure how it will perform with RT off. Which means the 5090 may finally eliminate all current GPU bottlenecks. Leakers are claiming this will be more like a 2-3 generational bump. My guess is 4k results on the 5090 may look more like current 1440p results on the 4090
Waiting is a smart move. I agree 100% wait if you can
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I appreciate all the help. I think I’m definitely waiting for the 50 series. You helped tremendously. TY
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I ran wow at 4k for a good while on a 3080, and could easily get over 60 FPS with everything maxed out.
But the other thing you’ll notice at that resolution is that VRAM starts to matter a lot, and I wouldn’t recommend going below 16 GB (12 GB will work for now, but it won’t be relevant as long).
The 4080 is more than enough to keep wow at a stable 90 FPS at 4k, except in valdrakken (where I end up CPU bound sometimes down in the upper 70s even on a 7800x3d, but that might just be my UI)