Whomever is in charge of making ideas surrounding PvP needs to be replaced and upgraded with someone who has a decent grasp on pvp. There should be no reason why a shaman can 4 DPS class’ without anyone helping the shaman for over 15 seconds. They can darn near kill all 4 players using Fire Nova, Flame Shock AoE Glyph + insta lava burst in to a player.
A single class should not have this many pro’s to play it. If you listen to any streamer or viewers commenting it’s pretty unanimous that shamans are NOT in a good spot right now and it’s driving people away from SoD.
Battlegrounds dont pop, so you are basing your pvp experience off duels. Which are only going to tell you 1 thing…that other player is better than you.
Based on the Testwerk data ele shaman have dropped from mid to last in damage output.
We have received multiple nerfs across the board. Our burn rune (for example) is actually weaker at 60 than it currently is now at 50.
WSG was popping the first day or two. The WSG isn’t popping because likely people don’t want to fight shamans. The Alliance BG’s just kept having people afk out due to shamans just running earth shield killing people in a lava burst, clighting, earthshock combo. It was not enjoyable from the alliance pov.
It’s astonishing that people can defend that shamans are in a good spot now in phase 3 or on phase 4. It’s part of the reason PvP is dying on SoD.
lol…you just described the dreaded Resto-bear in TBC; stacked resilience and stamina and was basically unkillable and would just slowly chew through the crowd foolish enough to try and kill them.
“Darn near” means they didnt kill the 4, but got them close to death. You can see vods of a shaman 2v1’ing 2 rogues in Tanaris on Youtube. He eats a full stunlock and still kills them both.
I have played PTR and yes even post nerf they are insane.
let’s look at what has changed with Shaman in P4:
Nerfs
-spell power from burn rune halved
-WoE casting range gutted (this is good)
Buffs/new runes
-shamanistic rage baseline (can now have that plus earth shield on legs)
-riptide grants power surge procs
-AoE root with earthbind
-60% more FS DoT damage
-CL has what a 3 sec CD now instead of when they thought it should be no CD?
so in P4 shaman still going to be able to spread FS to 5 targets every 6 sec, still feeding them 100% crit surge procs and have an easier time doing so as whenever you have melee run towards you just drop AoE root, practically spammable CL, have a wall on a 1 min CD+riptide+earth shield+instant heals from surge procs
yeah man they definitely picked on poor ele sham with these MASSIVE NERFS, WHEN WILL IT END BLIZZ? HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO POOR ELE?
Sad part is we all still play this version of the game. What does that say about us as consumers? To be honest from the companies POV I don’t see the upside for them with making the game as unfun to play as possible.
Most classes got several spells baseline (cough wings and a free sprint…cough). This was mostly to help out shaman tanks who are practically oom every pull and give them a DM CD. Also earth shield heals for jack unless you are talented into healing spells.
Ah yes, that extra 5% chance to proc…woo.
Ok, can we have a stun then because all when have are snares atm. Once a melee gets on us and earthbind is on CD we are basically a punching bag with insane spell push back. And if you say you have wolves then we dont have that AoE root anymore.
On the backend. Again, wooo
Its still a 3s CD. So its not “practically spammable”. And if you are letting any caster just free cast, which you cant do with CL then you have other problems.
You also forgot nerfs to mental dex and gutting our maelstrom healing with enhance which is basically going to force us to go ele in PvP or end up as walking glass cannons.
These conversations are really getting tiresome. Almost every other blue post has had shaman nerfs, but yet you still continue. We are literally at the bottom of the testwerk parses with damage output. At this point its safe to assume you just want the class gutted.
