Big MW changes coming with the anniversary

From Wowhead:

  • Mistweaver
    • New Passive Ability: Dome of Mist – Enveloping Mist transforms 80% of its remaining periodic healing into a Dome of Mist when dispelled, absorbing damage and increasing healing received by the Monk by 30% for 8 seconds. Learned at level 45.

    • Ancient Teachings is now a baseline effect and transfers damage from Crackling Jade Lightning, but now transfers 30% of damage into healing.

    • New Talent: Jadefire Teachings – After casting Jadefire Stomp or Thunder Focus Tea, Ancient Teachings transfers an additional 140% damage to healing for 15 seconds. While Jadefire Teachings is active, your Stamina is increased by 5%.

    • New Talent: Refreshment – Life Cocoon now grants 5 stacks of Mana Tea and applies 2 stacks of Healing Elixir to its target.

    • New Talent: Rushing Wind Kick – Kick up a powerful gust of wind, dealing Nature damage in a 25 yard cone to enemies in front of you, split evenly among them. Damage is increased by 5% for each target hit, up to 30%. Grants Rushing Winds for 4 seconds, increasing Renewing Mist’s healing by 50%. Replaces Rising Sun Kick, choice node with Jadefire Teachings.

    • New Talent: Jade Empowerment – Casting Thunder Focus Tea increases your next Crackling Jade Lightning’s damage by 1000% and causes it to chain to 4 additional enemies. Choice node with Dance of Chi-Ji.

    • Calming Coalescence has been redesigned – Increases the absorb amount of Life Cocoon by 80%.

    • Crackling Jade Lightning damage increased by 100%.

    • Crackling Jade Lightning now channels 25% faster.

    • Blackout Kick damage increased by 25%.

    • Awakened Jadefire now additionally causes Blackout Kick to strike 2 additional targets at 70% effectiveness.

    • Dance of Chi-Ji’s chance to trigger has been increased by 100% and has moved talent locations.

    • Enveloping Mist can now be dispelled.

    • The following talents have been removed:

      • Nourishing Chi
      • Ancient Concordance

Looks like we’re getting some ranged damage possibilities, which will undoubtedly help with Soothing Mists builds (great for PvP)!

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HOLY SHHH!@&&#@.
IS CRACKLING JADE LIGHTNING BECOMING A REAL ABILITY? Or am I getting ahead of myself.
Visually its my favorite spell but I’ve always kept Monk shelved 90% of the time because I get annoyed that its useless.

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Ranged Mistweaver :3

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good changes

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Seeing WW and brew not even mentioned in the notes was so heartbreaking

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That Rushing Wind Kick seems awful. Choice between fistweaving being viable, or a kick that makes RM heal more and is aoe. RM is absolutely miserable healing at the moment. I don’t think a choice node there is what the class needs. It needs actual help because most of the other healers are outpacing it.

You could probably just make rushing wind kick baseline for mistweaver at this point and that would be the boost it needs to be a bit unique plus more competitive. It needs something strong of it’s own, and mystic touch ain’t it.

MoH still basically dead tree. Probably should be the fistweaver tree, but still dead.

I’m pretty sure this is not meant for fistweavers, meaning their balancing will happen without this spell. It’s for casters to have more DPS and more active abilities that interact with their spells.

It is still garbage for castweavers tho. Amping Renewing Mist healing by 50% is still worthless since it heals for little to begin with. Would be nice if people could take both so that RSK would still be useful for grandpa Soomweaver.

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Yeah but the whole point of choice nodes is to separate builds by forcing you to choose. If one build could snipe the best of both worlds, it would make them impossible to fine tune separately.
RM heals for little, so I agree that part is pointless but again, I think the goal with this spell is to buff the DPS of caster builds in a way that somewhat interacts with their spells. If Rushing Wind Kick triggers Rising Mist, this would open up possibilities especially now that there’s alternative options for reducing RSK’s cooldown than just blackout kick.

I’m a little bit worried about the implementation of Rushing Wind Kick, based on the description as well as the range, it might be awkward aiming it. If it’s like chi burst maybe it wont be so bad, but who knows.

Neat change.

These 2 should have been rolled into one talent/baseline. Needing to spend 2 points to make CJL useful is too much tbh. Talent tree is already pretty starved and even if you dont like jadefire stomp there are probably better picks. The healing will have to be pretty significant for me to want to pick up these 2 talents at the expesnse of others.

Cool. They could have removed this talent and just buffed lifecocoon back to how useful it felt. Good change but silly one because they made a whole blue post in the beta forums a week or two before tww about life cocoon being where they want it to be power wise and all that garbage.

The mana tea stacks Life Cocoon is neat, could pair well with the lower CD Life cocoon. Though unless mana tea is nerfed I don’t think it will make a huge difference. We have a ton of mana to play with if you are already using mana tea properly. Im sure someone will find a use for this though.

Alot of these changes feel geared towards pvp tbh. I personally don’t like jadefire stomp but tbh unless the healing/damage of a talented CJL is extremely high I dont see myself dropping 2 useful talents to make CJL somewhat useful to press. Even with my non Jadefire build Ill stick to melee using tp/bok/rsk and sck. Bonus now that tp/rsk will heal passively through the new ancient teachings change.

The connecting line from revival to Yu’Lon is a good change too.

Im curious to see how the CJL changes impact Master of Harmony tree though. Do their 2 stacks of TFT make this something that can proc more often?

These are interesting times either way and these changes are probably healthy as a whole for the spec and bringing more people into it.

It wont be a ton of extra healing through ren mist.

Ren mist ticks for 2 times in those 4 seconds. Each tick is 17363 for me ( with chi harmony in those first 4 seconds ). That is around 50k ish per person in 4 seconds with this new talent compared to the normal 35k ish. Both pretty insignificant numbers tbh and realistically all ren mists affected wont be the chi harmony ones.

This talent replaces RSK completely and is on the bottom left of the tree with the Jadefire talents. So chances are it still has synergy with fistweaving talents and is more or less probably intended to work with that playstyle more than anything. This might just be a slight buff to jadefire stomp playstyle from the looks of it, with the possibility of it being okay in a raid environment if the ren mist healing adds up.

Is there any way it is possible to use this in PVE?

LOL they really, really don’t want to increase our melee range. People have been asking for years, and I guess this is their compromise.

I’m a fan of the mini-ancient teachings. Sometimes its annoying when the tank moves and it’s not reset.

Still seems like it will never be taken over (new) Ancient Teachings.

Don’t you still need to be in melee and doing a melee rotation to get the RSK resets? I don’t see how this really benefits people who want to be fully ranged. It’s still way better to fistweave, even with this talent.


Looking through the other class changes, it seems like other classes got some significant hero talent changes. I was hoping that the lack of Master of Harmony changes was because they’d do these in another pass. Darn, I wish they’d take another look at that hero talent tree for MW.

Chances are no. I don’t think remember a raid/dungeon boss that ever dispelled players Hot’s/effects. PVP change mostly.

Yup, the ability itself hits people in a cone in front of you but it doesn’t entirely benefit anyone wanting to sit in “ranged” for resetting purposes. Which is why I mentioned it being better for Jadefire stomp builds more than anything.

( Just my opinion here but even with these changes people still want to be in melee. Unless blizzard comes out and states MW is no longer melee coded I will just assume it’s meant to be played in melee as much as mechanics allow, regardless of build. )

You could TFT+RSk - which gives 2 RSK/Rushing Wind Kick uses in a row, one more if talented into Focused thunder, possibly 0-2 more if you took tea of plenty and rng doesn’t derp you over with expel harms ( I dont recommend doing any of this tbh ).

Youd have to space those RSK/Wind Kick uses out every 4 seconds to keep the ren mist buff rolling which will eat up globals and lock you into sub optimally using tft on rsk *all the time" and that all other talents will synergize with rushing wind kick like they do with rsk. Much easier to just play in melee like the spec is meant to be.

I AM curious to see if this talent will be any good in raids though and if it still works with Rising Mists. I might pick up Rushing Wind Kick in my raid build if it’s pretty good in that environment tbh.

Yeah it seems like it will be the same annoyance as Prevoker. I don’t really want to rely on my PUGs stacking in a cone area in front of me.

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I agree, pugs do all kinds of special stuff.

The way I interpreted the ability is that only the damage event happens in the cone. The RenMist healing buff ( I hope ) is a separate thing affecting us, and not the people in the cone. The wording of the tooltip gives me that vibe but without being able to test I cant say for certain.

If that is the case and the buff affects us buffing all ren mists and not just people in that cone I think Rushing Wind Kick could see raid usage if it is a solid boost to RenMist healing over a longer duration and if it synergizes with other talents that affect RSK.

It wasn’t included in the patch notes, but on the PTR, Zen Focus Tea pvp talent is now a passive that gives 5s of aura mastery every time Thunder Focus Tea is pressed.

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You know instead of uselessly buffing Renewing Mist maybe increase the length and have it buff invigorating mists? That would make RWK actually insane.

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Apparently ancient concordance is baked into awakened jade fire.

Yeah I cant see this being picked often. I read it, and immediately was underwhelmed by RM being the thing it interacts with. Like… really? Really shocked it doesnt interact with Enveloping mists or soothing mists even. Im worried about the Concordance RSK reset being gone, that could be a massive nerf to spreading RM. Also, they need to just make Chi Burst have an instant cast proc on every spec. That would be nice.