they revamp most classes every expansion anyway. why would that be any different?
Personally, I like:
Very much.
Some specs have that now. where talent choices can make a spec play easier and smoother, and others where the skill cap is higher (ie blood talons for feral druids) and thus offers a higher reward in damage.
Even the way they have worked at frost dk last tier to try and make things even with BoS.
Two very different playstyles.
On some level, I think the level squish will sort out things for Shadowlands, simply because it will eliminate to 60-120 gap where you barely get anything new.
I think thatâs a good thing to.
I canât think of any new actual buttons we got in BfA that werenât just taken from the artifact weapon and made into talents (like ebonbolt or new moon).
Also, I think expansion specific cosmetic things would be great.
Like the MoP green fire quest for warlocks, but something similar for every class.
The legion class and spec specific stuff was cool, and I think overwhelmingly well received.
So why not add something similar but not so grand as it was.
Each class could have a long term, expansion length quest that led to a really cool cosmetic weapon or something by the end.
Similar (in style) to the legendary weapon quests from cata which were really well done.
Also - and full credit to Trib for always pumping this - reforging as a profession or at least back in the game.
Having the ability to alter our secondaries by choice more than the whim of the rng drops would (I think) really help smooth out gameplay for more people.
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/summon tribulator
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To be honest, itâs kinda cringey how weâre getting excited over them simply âadding back inâ pruned abilities that were previously baseline in previous expacs.
Instead of actual new/exciting class abilities or talent tree options, theyâre dangling out âoldâ abilities as one of the main draws 
I guess itâs a testament to just how bad BFA was for classes/gameplay that weâre âhappyâ when they throw us some scraps in the form of âoldâ class abilities. How far weâve fallen.
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Seeing blizzards recent work I donât trust them to make new abilities.
It is rather humorous as well that they screwed up so much that people prefer work done by a different team.
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Iâm really hoping itâs âA teamâ working on Shadowlands, hoping to be pleasantly surprised like I was with Legion. B teamâs track record not very good (Cata, WoD, BFA), if itâs B team on the job then gg.
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Iâm hoping they fix wpvp so cbh will leave classic and go back to retail where there is some semblance of skill and balance.
Legion started us down the road I will no longer walk. I admit I liked the weapon at first but it should have been finished by the end of the leveling process imo. I am not max level resource farming ever again. That is the time I SHOULD be having fun in bgs but nope, Iâm underpowered so I need to spend an hour or three killing something or someone Iâve killed a dozen times before. Noping out of that.
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Nah, Legion was good imo
Classes played pretty smooth for the most part. Mage tower and class order halls kept you busy on alts. Good storyline and lots to do.
Keeping busy on alts and having fun with alts are two entirely different things. I used to have fun with alts. I used to be able to full conquest toons on several toons and had fun doing it. Legion started the end of that fun. BfA killed it with a blunt object.
It also started the RNG garbage. RNG can KMA.
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Iâm with you.
Thatâs why Iâd prefer optional, cosmetic reward things to grind if someone so chooses to.
That way if I donât want to, and just want to log on and play, I can, but if I (or someone else) wants x, y, or z cosmetic reward, the grind for that is readily available as well.
Artifact power as a whole has been complete sht. Itâs never felt good to me and I only enjoy playing once its been trivialized by end of expansion catch up mechanics (like now).
Now, I can easily hop on, get relatively geared (or more), and play what I want to my hearts desire.
Just took the whole damn expansion to get there.
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Had a weird dream last night, was driving on the road when a bunch of nukes went off in the distance. I got knocked out from the oncoming traffic, woke up in a hospital to a nurse telling me iâve been in a coma for 19 years.
She turned on the history channel for me. After the nukes from the war between china and the U.S. A million of Baby Yodaâs came out from a underground cave and became mutated from the radiation in China. They then spent the next 19 years destroying the entire eastern hemisphere besides the island nations. And at the time of my Awakening they were trying to discover a way to cross the ocean and conquer the rest of the world.
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I would probably never go to sleep again.
Shoulda seen those baby yodas man, they were freaky. One was squealing like a pig as he lifted a chinese armored truck with the force and crushed it into a million pieces.
I swear if I dream this tonightâŚ
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Probably unsubbing tonight. Gunna see if i can get my shadowlands preorder refunded if not Iâll just eat the cost. Was really nice not having to panic run through everything to try and cap and get all weekly stuff done in a small window. Spent all that time with kids and taking them hunting. Like everyone Iâll probably be back at some point but it wonât be for a while. Gunna see what I can get with my blizzard cash. Might pick up CoD.
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Hopefully by when shadowlands comes out they will do away with this weekly grind fest.
Agreeing with all this. Best predictor of future behavior is relevant past behavior. Players were blamed consistently for his bad choices and it looks like he is swiping at players again with the newest statement.
It is cringe. Itâs getting old that âdevelopmentâ is merely bringing back what was stripped away with nothing new being âdevelopedâ except things players are massively unhappy with.
Good point.
So.Much.This. ^
Sorry for the quote all over the place post, wasnât on yesterday, catching up. 
Fix how? Iâm loving warmode and the faction assaults, weekly kill quests, etc.
My only issues with world PvP stem from the faction imbalance which is player driven.
Warmode killed my pvp server. All I have ever rolled on is pvp. It makes the world exciting. Now itâs nothing but players with warmode off. Itâs pve on my chosen pvp server and no one ever opts into world pvp. Classic is amazing for world pvp and so much fun in that regard. Shame too many other things got skewed.
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