BG forums lounge (Part 1)

Basically they are wasting tests on people who could just be staying away from everyone for two weeks. This one (or more) basketball star who was asymptomatic didn’t need to be tested because his job was cancelled. But the NBA ordered all those tests way before hand. My question is, why didn’t hospitals/nursing homes??

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I don’t think there’s such a thing as “social triage”, unfortunately.

To be fair, only at most 190 of them did a better job. At least 4 did worse, maybe 5 or even 6. I can’t say I’m surprised because I’m not. Not in the least. We’ve set ourselves up for something like this awhile ago but we only recently got the finishing touches put in place to make it happen at this level.

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Who did worse? As far as numbers we already doubled China and haven’t even hit our peak yet. Italy maybe but we far outnumber their cases as well.

We have a few more people than Italy don’t we?

Yea, and China has way more.

I don’t trust China’s numbers and their govt. tried to keep it quiet until it was too late so I go with them and the rest (Italy/Spain and maybe other European countries) I put in based not on net numbers but percentage of the populations getting ill. That’s not to honestly say they did a worse job, I’d have to look at timelines of actions they took to really judge. Also when it’s all said and done we may be the ones who did the worse that’s for sure. Especially since we have such a disparity in quality of governors from state to state with some trying really hard to pick up the slack of a failed federal response and some not.

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China is a communist country though and basically shut down entire districts. It’s not apples to apples because of our freedoms. I know several through my work that I stayed in close contact with when they went through all that.

Their gov randomly showed up at an apartment tower with over a thousand residents inside and locked the doors for 10 days. Then they reopened it with doctors outside and one at a time processed everyone inside and if they had any symptom they were sent off to a quarantine hospital and if not, they were free to stay within the quarantined district. Some residents wouldn’t leave their apartments and were literally drug outside and checked.

It’s not fair to compare the free world to the communist world.

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Very true.

If you have a morbid curiosity, this site updates throughout the day with a number of statistics with daily tabs as well as overall totals:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Big part of it honestly. I’ve heard even with their communist measures they’re drastically underplaying how many people died. I think they finally have it under wraps but still…

Italy and Spain are also way worse off… Not to say the us won’t get there or that parts of the us are that bad though… let’s hope the current measures are enough to flatten the curve that we run into the Italy situation.

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What about comparing our response to South Korea’s?

Both countries detected their first cases of COVID-19 on the same day.

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Would you argue that cultural differences could affect infection rates? South Koreans are a very disciplined group of people. Do you think college aged kids in south korea said screw the virus and went spring break partying anyway? Short answer is no.

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In addition to what jd said… Some of the things the government did there are still way beyond what they can do here. Our freedom loving selves would not be okay with it.

Seriously look up some of the things the police had the power to do. Not a fan, leads down a dangerous slope. The issue here is just some people don’t take it seriously. Which is a bummer. I don’t know what to do about it sadly, not an easy thing to deal with.

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I would argue that they quickly started mass producing testing kits and started testing everyone. I guess that could be a cultural difference.

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What good does it do to have an infinite amount of tests if half the people disregard the threat and continue on like always?

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Are you really trying to argue that having sufficient testing for everyone wouldn’t have mattered in the U.S.?

Maybe just that it’s impact would have been somewhat small.

South Korea setup free drive-through testing over a month ago:

The other half of JD’s statement points to the fact people don’t take it seriously. I work in Seattle, moms with infants in strollers is common.

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