BFA PVP is just unacceptable! 😔

The day they started making PvE gear do better than PVP gear in PVP ,

That’s when things went FAR LEFT for PvP.

Seriously, No matter how much you hate PvP or think very little of it. There is no EXCUSE that you can defend this system ideology that these devs put into BFA/

You don’t need to be a developer, a game designer, or anything related to that but A PLAYER OF THE GAME to realize it’s just Fundamentally wrong to have PvE GEAR do better than PvP GEAR in a PvP SETTING :neutral_face: (warmode/arena/bgs/etc)!

Like I laugh at the fact at how this system absolutely makes ZERO SENSE. Blizzard needs to bring back a PVP Dev because this is just sad. This is what happens when you have 1 Dev who’s main focus is on PVE and is given a task outside of his knowledge!

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BfA PvP is designed by PvE-ers for PvE-ers.

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Bingo. That’s exactly what it is

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Cool opinion bruh! :white_check_mark:

Thanks for your feedback, hopefully they assess it and determine what course of action to take.

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Personally not for me either, I stopped pvping once legion came with no vendors. Hence my lower honor level. No reason to pvp if playing it is basically a mini game with little to no rewards right now.

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And it really sucks when they force players to play a certain way to do PvP. Not everyone’s into spamming mythics all day Blizz

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I agree; nerf shaman.

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This is the end.

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I always played PvP in WoW and other games.
I always though PvP in WoW made zero sense.
I always had fun in PvP in WoW.
Still, from all games I know, it is the most screwed up system.

However one thing I might accept and most people dont: PvP in WoW cant be much better, unless it is completely out of PvE.

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My main concern is that you keep your pvp out of my pve. Which means at the same time I think pve should have absolutely nothing to do with pvp. You shouldn’t be able to pvp without pvp armors on either.

Blizzard wanted this system now its their job to keep them separated. Do not nerf pve for pvp, do not nerf pvp for pve. Pretty simple.

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What’s even worse is being a PvE’r and having to grind BGs for blood of the enemy. Please keep PvE and PvP systems separate.

PvP should have gotten their own corruption and essences that only work in PvP and all of the PvE ones should only be for PvE.

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I think the worst part is that EVERYTHING is tied to Visions so even if i get a piece of gear if it is corrupted i can’t cleanse it to use it unless i go do Visions…wtf is that crap. Cloak seems to be a must have but no way to progress it in PvP, just to get it is 2 or more hours of PvE for EACH CHARACTER you might want to play.

Don’t even get me started on essences.

This expansion is so PvE focused and that’s it, you can forget alts.

I think what scares me more is that Shadowlands has shown ZERO for PvP…absolutely NOTHING at all.

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Ya that was honestly terrifying this guy hasn’t said a lick about it during the Shadowlands announcement. Guts telling me that he plans to keep PvP as is

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I wish they’d bring resilience back.

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There’s never been a PvP Dev…

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Cleansing is almost entirely free…? How could you not know this if you’ve tried cleansing gear before??

This has been the case since Vanilla. I’m not going to lie to you by telling you to expect more.

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bring back pvp power and multihit too.

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Things that Hurt PVP:

  1. They simplified classes because they wanted the difficulty to be for the encounter (Raiding) not actually playing your class (depth removed).

  2. They removed Resilience and PVP power, by doing that they now have to balance gearing in Both PVP and PVE (Right now it is far easier to gear in PVE than PVP), Mythic plus, Raiding, other PVE content.

  3. Because they removed PVP gear & they also removed Rating achievements participation is down. In WOTLK people would slowly grind up the arena ladder for small rewards - IE bracers and cloak i think where around 1300 rating, then cape, and head at 1900 rating.

  4. They removed PVP gear having its own Look and feel (It use to look different from Raiding sets).

  5. You cannot buy the piece of gear you want anymore. But that wont matter much if they dont fix the huge gearing balance between PVP and PVE.

  6. They stopped balancing PVP seasons. BFA has only had 2 hotfix/PVP balances. Even though abilities Can be balances number wise differently in both PVP and PVE.

Possible Solutions:

  • Make PVP gear slightly better than PVE gear (10% or something) with a PVP power Stat. It will still allow pve’rs to start PVPing but it wont destroy participation in the ladders

  • Make classes more interesting ( i dont think this will effect PVE, I remember MOP having more people anyway and classes had more interesting stuff back then).

  • Actually Balance the game. That was the whole point of splitting abilities so they act differently in PVP and PVE. Imagine if games like league of legends or fortnight didnt balance the game (BLAND)

  • Have a better reward system for both Normal PVP and Ranked PVP.

His name is Chris Kaleiki & he is the PVP dev at the moment. But yea, it would be hard to know with only 2 small pvp balances in the whole of BFA and no real pvp updates to rewards for the whole xpac.

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Almost is not entirely and i don’t know it because i haven’t even bothered to finish the quest line to open up visions on my ā€œmainā€ because i hate living in PvE so i can have some fun in PvP.

No it hasn’t, not even close. When we had vendors i could just go and PvP and then go buy the gear i wanted from that vendor. No need to live in scripted kill land.

I don’t expect anything. I just play less and less because they keep tying everything in the game to having to play multiple mains instead of alts even existing.

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Maybe DHS activate blade dance on the silence button.

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