I am so glad there is pathfinder and that Blizzard stands by it. Man, seeing all the salt and tears over this which was announced years ago and how flying will be unlocked going forward. I swear, I hope none of these whiners plan on playing Classic WoW when the server gets made because they will be in for a rude awakening (assuming they will keep it true to classic and not make it steamroll). No flying. No LFD/LFR. Real rep grinds. Very looong leveling. etc.
No one is stopping you from leveling slowly or long grinds or not flying now. You can do all that if you want, but I am sure you dont. You just like being edgy on the forums and whining about the "whiners" .
Ahhh the typical "no one is stopping you" quote. It is cute how people seem to forget it was BLIZZARD who wanted to get rid of flying, not the community, and it was BLIZZARD who put the compromise in. I didn't want it removed but pathfinder is fine. Guess what. You don't have to do pathfinder either. It is your choice. If you want to fly you need to do it. God forbid you just need to play the game to unlock it. But I guess you prefer everything handed to you with little to no effort.
Also, no clue where you got from my post that I like slow leveling. Might want to read and understand posts before replying to them.
How many lost subs will this pathfinder cost them?
Its a bad idea
easiest path finder ever... i dont see the complaint here the majority of us will do all this first time around on our mains without even specifically trying to get the achievement. I just hope part two will be just as easy.
Ahhh the typical "no one is stopping you" quote. It is cute how people seem to forget it was BLIZZARD who wanted to get rid of flying, not the community, and it was BLIZZARD who put the compromise in. I didn't want it removed but pathfinder is fine. Guess what. You don't have to do pathfinder either. It is your choice. If you want to fly you need to do it. God forbid you just need to play the game to unlock it. But I guess you prefer everything handed to you with little to no effort.
Yeah. You're right. No one has to do Pathfinder.
No one has to level past MoP either, so I think I'll take that option.
At this point, I'm too casual to use Flight in new content even if I bothered to get it.
I think a lot of people are really the same way, they wouldn't use it for as much as others would, but they are nitpicking it anyway. It's not for people who just wanna be social and do random things.
All the new MVP they have are just White knights and shills its really quite sad and pathetic
Is it possible... just possible... that they might just agree with Blizzard's approach on this? The MVPs aren't paid Blizzard employees, and they aren't going to lose their status if they disagree with Blizzard. They're regular people with regular accounts like everyone else. They've just conducted themselves well enough on the forums that they were recognized by Blizzard with some green text as a thank-you for helping make the forums the kind of place Blizzard wants for all of us.
I just threw up in my mouth a little. The new batch of MVP are all White knights and defend every stupid move Blizzard is making You dont get to be teachers pet by showing any kind of criticism towards Blizzard.
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Is it possible... just possible... that they might just agree with Blizzard's approach on this? The MVPs aren't paid Blizzard employees, and they aren't going to lose their status if they disagree with Blizzard. They're regular people with regular accounts like everyone else. They've just conducted themselves well enough on the forums that they were recognized by Blizzard with some green text as a thank-you for helping make the forums the kind of place Blizzard wants for all of us.
I just threw up in my mouth a little. The new batch of MVP are all White knights and defend every stupid move Blizzard is making You dont get to be teachers pet by showing any kind of criticism towards Blizzard.
It's really quite pathetic.
I don't mind people that have personal preferences of their own, but when their views are meant to frame a subject matter to disregard any sort of critical thinking...that's bad.
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No one is stopping you from leveling slowly or long grinds or not flying now. You can do all that if you want, but I am sure you dont. You just like being edgy on the forums and whining about the "whiners" .
Ahhh the typical "no one is stopping you" quote. It is cute how people seem to forget it was BLIZZARD who wanted to get rid of flying, not the community, and it was BLIZZARD who put the compromise in. I didn't want it removed but pathfinder is fine. Guess what. You don't have to do pathfinder either. It is your choice. If you want to fly you need to do it. God forbid you just need to play the game to unlock it. But I guess you prefer everything handed to you with little to no effort.
Also, no clue where you got from my post that I like slow leveling. Might want to read and understand posts before replying to them.
Pathfinder has been handled horribly since it started. Its not just playing the game normally. Its forcing you to do more then you normally would just to keep you logged in and increase the MAu/Dau because blizzard decided to time gate a feature that was avvailable to everyone at level cap for years. No one said they wanted everything handed to them, that was blizzard who implemented flying, heirlooms, faster paths to end game. Oh and the part where you said "I am so glad there is pathfinder and that Blizzard stands by it. Man, seeing all the salt and tears over this which was announced years ago and how flying will be unlocked going forward. I swear, I hope none of these whiners plan on playing Classic WoW when the server gets made because they will be in for a rude awakening (assuming they will keep it true to classic and not make it steamroll). No flying. No LFD/LFR. Real rep grinds. Very looong leveling. etc." kind of makes it seem you are all for slow leveling and everything you stated. Or do you just enjoy trolling the forums. I suspect the later
Looks like both factions will have to be used just to unlock flight. I have no problem with it but several of my friends will as they will only play either Alliance or Horde. I hope I am mistaken in what I saw. If not there will be plenty of upset people.
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I just threw up in my mouth a little. The new batch of MVP are all White knights and defend every stupid move Blizzard is making You dont get to be teachers pet by showing any kind of criticism towards Blizzard.
It's really quite pathetic.
I don't mind people that have personal preferences of their own, but when their views are meant to frame a subject matter to disregard any sort of critical thinking...that's bad.
So far all I have seen from the NEW MVP is not being helpful, just them defending everything BLizzard does, good or bad, and telling players who are not happy with these changes to suck it up and get over it. Thats hardly helpful
05/17/2018 08:06 AMPosted by
Jalania
Looks like both factions will have to be used just to unlock flight. I have no problem with it but several of my friends will as they will only play either Alliance or Horde. I hope I am mistaken in what I saw. If not there will be plenty of upset people.
Blizzard will play both sides of this.
If enough people complain they will remove it and say it's a mistake, that was put there in error.
If people don't complain they will leave it and act as if people are stupid because it was on the notes for it!!!
05/17/2018 08:06 AMPosted by
Jalania
Looks like both factions will have to be used just to unlock flight. I have no problem with it but several of my friends will as they will only play either Alliance or Horde. I hope I am mistaken in what I saw. If not there will be plenty of upset people.
If that is the case, and I dont have trouble believing it is because Blizzard needs to increase the time played metric, then BfA will go down in flames faster then I think it already will
It won't go away, fine, ... but I won't be that person who goes and takes anything Blizzard does just to say that, ''It's fine.'' Or ''You guys just want things handed to you.'' Blah blah blah blah.
Pathfinder 1 and 2 is a compromise to a problem that never existed. It wasn't until Blizzard forced it to be a problem.
I'm not fine with that.
Pathfinder isn't going away, if that's what you were thinking?
I was hoping for a complete achievement at launch instead of being strung along until some later date. Especially if they do a repeat of Legion where we wait eight months for flying only to be sent to Argus five months later.
05/17/2018 08:28 AMPosted by
Rankin
Pathfinder isn't going away, if that's what you were thinking?
I was hoping for a complete achievement at launch instead of being strung along until some later date. Especially if they do a repeat of Legion where we wait eight months for flying only to be sent to Argus five months later.
They do it because people stay.
If we are unhappy about it, we have to quit. If not, it's noise.
They don't care if you stay subbed and are unhappy, they care if you are unhappy enough to quit.
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No its not, stop defending a vapid, asinine decision.
In wotlk and pandaland we didnt need this bullsh$@. Get to max level, buy it for a reasonable amount.
Then they tried to remove flying. The ensuing backlash forced them to change their minds. Period.
Pathfinder is ALWAYS a spireful way to punish players for not allowing the devs to remove flying.
I totally agree, especially with the last statement. I was here when this happened, I remember how it went down.
They tried to remove flying without even making any announcement, it was mentioned offhand in a tweet iirc and then the backlash started. Devs doubled down, said flying was bad for the game. More players pushed back and we got Pathfinder. It really felt like they were punishing us for fighting back on this terrible decision.
The amount of people who are okay with and even support Pathfinder surprise me, but I think that is because I am a player who was used to getting flying after hitting max level and forking over some gold for every expansion since BC. Pathfinder felt like a passive-aggressive middle finger to the players who pushed back against the removal of flight.
I did WoD pathfinder and Legion pathfinder and I will do the BFA one, but it still sucks.
I agree with Piddy on page 1 of this thread. We'll be able to accomplish 80% or more of Pathfinder 1 just playing the game (doing the quests, exploring the zones). Some, who have more time, will get it done more quickly.
And I don't even mind a Part 2 to earn flying, I just hope it doesn't occur 8 months later after Part 1 has been done for 5 months...I hope Blizzard has a better plan this time around.
Yikes. Pathfinder is fine
05/17/2018 07:40 AMPosted by
Pigpie
How many lost subs will this pathfinder cost them?
Its a bad idea
Asking players to solo play through both faction storylines and exploring everything is a "bad idea?"
Players are going to be doing most of that exact same content to unlock the Zandalari and Kul'tiran allied races. This just layers another reward on top of that.
Ion did say at one point that he wanted to add more to Pathfinder.
Hmmm.