Its going to be the third expansion in a row where I don't have flying gg Blizzard
05/15/2018 08:00 PMPosted by AdoreiteI’ve learned to live with pathfinder because it’s not going away no matter how bad we want it to. I often wonder how bad it will suck a few more expansions from now if you didn’t keep up or you are a new or returning player. You pretty much have no catch-up mechanic and won’t be able to fly in any expansion from WOD forward unless you farm pathfinder for each and every expansion.
This is what I ran into. I left during WoD and came back recently. I can't see myself ever flying in WoD or Legion, which is kinda silly considering the content is either old or about to be.
I honestly don't understand all the hate against pathfinder. The requirements are all things you get by doing the quests. Complete the main story line? Easy. Explore the zones? Also easy. Only mildly difficult thing is the rep, but honestly you get most of it through questing. I get the hate with having a part 2, and I honestly hated how long it took to get part 2 in Legion with all the time-gating (and lets be honest, 7.2 was sh@t-show), but actually playing the game isn't and shouldn't be a chore.
I don't know about you, but I would rather do all the content on one character and unlock flying for all my alts in one go, rather than pay however many thousands of gold on ALL of them.
I don't know about you, but I would rather do all the content on one character and unlock flying for all my alts in one go, rather than pay however many thousands of gold on ALL of them.
05/17/2018 02:40 AMPosted by BonusrollI honestly don't understand all the hate against pathfinder.
Well for me the hate stems from the fact that they make you jump through all these hoops and wait forever to get it, then once you get it, they just make a new zone where it doesn't work.
I'm shocked. SHOCKED. Who would have thought they'd use the same model as previous expansions in the new one?
05/15/2018 07:52 PMPosted by Withpuppyshope you guys love pathfinder, because here is the prerequisites for part 1
http://www.wowhead.com/news=284424/road-to-acquire-flying-in-battle-for-azeroth-pathfinder-part-one
Just stop caring about it.
And when I stop caring enough and theyve turned this game into FF14 I may as well take my money for two subs over and play ff14 instead.
I honestly don't understand all the hate against pathfinder.
heh.
yeah...I just dont understand why EVERY player here isnt playing pet battles all day long either.
Do you get the point?
05/15/2018 07:58 PMPosted by Vatrelia05/15/2018 07:56 PMPosted by MetrohahaWas there something in there that surprised you?
Looks quite standard to me.
Pathfinder isn't going away, if that's what you were thinking?
Its really quite a fair compromise for keeping the start of the game on the ground while having players demonstrate that they have done so before they unlock the extreme convenience flying offers.
Are you trolling? No one likes Pathfinder. I have it, and I still don't like it.
What did he say that was wrong?
05/17/2018 05:14 AMPosted by Spy05/15/2018 07:58 PMPosted by Vatrelia...
Are you trolling? No one likes Pathfinder. I have it, and I still don't like it.
What did he say that was wrong?
For not saying that he hate pathfinder i guess lol
05/15/2018 08:42 PMPosted by VelaraIn order to get both the Kul Turas and Zandalari sub achievements you have to do the rep and all quest storylines for BOTH FACTIONS.
So what happened is they made WoD/Legion PF irritating in hopes we'd just not do it and give up flight.
They found out that too many players "just play the game" and get flight anyway.
Now they up the ante to push it even further with the same agenda....getting us to give up flight.
The intent here is clear as day. Bliz wants to make this game as boring as all those other games I stopped playing over the years when they starting boring me.
If they want strip this game of what makes it unique I guess I'll just go play FF14 instead since I wont be losing anything.
So keep pushing Bliz.
Keep making this game more and more like every crap game Ive ever stopped playing and I'll save my money for two subs a month and go back to playing skyrim for free.
"Currently, the achievement shows both Alliance and Horde criteria into it, likely a beta bug."
But lets ignore all that and rabble rabble rabble because this is GD.
But lets ignore all that and rabble rabble rabble because this is GD.
I'm a returning player and hate what blizz has done to flying. I've leveled thru wod twice and will never have flying. Same for legion. Pathfinder may work better in new content as, like many of you say, you get most of it done while leveling. That's not the case for wod and legion now. I leveled to max in both xpacs in only 2 zones. Wod I didn't even make it halfway thru the 2nd b4 hitting 100. That leaves a huge amount of grinding required for no other reason.
Rep was never required to do in BC or WotLK. Sure, if you wanted a mount or prof pattern you might do 1 or 2, but that was it. Tacking 4 or more rep grinds to flying is ridiculous. I use to play for hours a day and never got bored and didn't need rep grinds to keep me busy. Now I have to force myself just to turn it on because all those things I use to do require me to be grounded and slog thru unless I want to backtrack thru useless and uninteresting content to earn flying. This new dev team sucks. Things that use to be complex and interesting like class abilities and builds are now simple and boring while things that use to be simple and fun like flying are complicated and boring. It's completely backwards. That's my opinion on pathfinder.
Rep was never required to do in BC or WotLK. Sure, if you wanted a mount or prof pattern you might do 1 or 2, but that was it. Tacking 4 or more rep grinds to flying is ridiculous. I use to play for hours a day and never got bored and didn't need rep grinds to keep me busy. Now I have to force myself just to turn it on because all those things I use to do require me to be grounded and slog thru unless I want to backtrack thru useless and uninteresting content to earn flying. This new dev team sucks. Things that use to be complex and interesting like class abilities and builds are now simple and boring while things that use to be simple and fun like flying are complicated and boring. It's completely backwards. That's my opinion on pathfinder.
05/17/2018 05:25 AMPosted by Teldrissa"Currently, the achievement shows both Alliance and Horde criteria into it, likely a beta bug."
But lets ignore all that and rabble rabble rabble because this is GD.
heh...yeah...and we have ALL seen how this kind of 'bug' ends up in the final release while fanboys in here keep pretending that it wont.
Bliz idiotic policy of not allowing me to mail my alliance characters crap or gold from my horde characters forced me into the position of having to choose one side or another. it was their own moronic fault for not understanding that everyone who plays this game CANT spend their entire lives in it.
So now I have no alliance characters and WONT be leveling one for PF any more than I'll run rep grinds for something is UNRELATED to rep as flight is.
Its like the stupid train ran full speed into every idiot developer at Bliz.
The result is their employees literally trying their best to kill everything about this game that makes it unique.
So now I have no alliance characters and WONT be leveling one for PF any more than I'll run rep grinds for something is UNRELATED to rep as flight is.
Its like the stupid train ran full speed into every idiot developer at Bliz.
The result is their employees literally trying their best to kill everything about this game that makes it unique.
05/17/2018 05:25 AMPosted by MoshI'm a returning player and hate what blizz has done to flying. I've leveled thru wod twice and will never have flying. Same for legion. Pathfinder may work better in new content as, like many of you say, you get most of it done while leveling. That's not the case for wod and legion now. I leveled to max in both xpacs in only 2 zones. Wod I didn't even make it halfway thru the 2nd b4 hitting 100. That leaves a huge amount of grinding required for no other reason.
Rep was never required to do in BC or WotLK. Sure, if you wanted a mount or prof pattern you might do 1 or 2, but that was it. Tacking 4 or more rep grinds to flying is ridiculous. I use to play for hours a day and never got bored and didn't need rep grinds to keep me busy. Now I have to force myself just to turn it on because all those things I use to do require me to be grounded and slog thru unless I want to backtrack thru useless and uninteresting content to earn flying. This new dev team sucks. Things that use to be complex and interesting like class abilities and builds are now simple and boring while things that use to be simple and fun like flying are complicated and boring. It's completely backwards. That's my opinion on pathfinder.
05/15/2018 07:52 PMPosted by Withpuppyshope you guys love pathfinder, because here is the prerequisites for part 1
http://www.wowhead.com/news=284424/road-to-acquire-flying-in-battle-for-azeroth-pathfinder-part-one
Why not wait until AFTER the game officially comes out before you all claim that everything on Wowhead is true and WILL happen?
We are still in beta and everyone is claiming that how it is now WILL be in the released version.
We will not know for sure what is really true until August.
So basically, Blizzard said months and months ago that pathfinder will work in BfA just like it did in Legion...
... and now that we know it will work like that, not from Blizzard but from a datamind build of the beta, we are shocked and upset at the revelation that pathfinder will work exactly like it did in Legion?
... and now that we know it will work like that, not from Blizzard but from a datamind build of the beta, we are shocked and upset at the revelation that pathfinder will work exactly like it did in Legion?
05/15/2018 07:58 PMPosted by Vatrelia05/15/2018 07:56 PMPosted by MetrohahaWas there something in there that surprised you?
Looks quite standard to me.
Pathfinder isn't going away, if that's what you were thinking?
Its really quite a fair compromise for keeping the start of the game on the ground while having players demonstrate that they have done so before they unlock the extreme convenience flying offers.
Are you trolling? No one likes Pathfinder. I have it, and I still don't like it.
Just when do you, and others that claim the same thing, speak for ALL of us? Just how do you know that EVERYONE thinks the same way as you do?
Not everyone that plays Warcraft thinks the same way as another player. But people keep claiming that over and over again in the forums.
05/15/2018 07:58 PMPosted by Vatrelia05/15/2018 07:56 PMPosted by MetrohahaWas there something in there that surprised you?
Looks quite standard to me.
Pathfinder isn't going away, if that's what you were thinking?
Its really quite a fair compromise for keeping the start of the game on the ground while having players demonstrate that they have done so before they unlock the extreme convenience flying offers.
Are you trolling? No one likes Pathfinder. I have it, and I still don't like it.
I think it is just you and your friends that do not like it. I personally do not mind it. Part one can be done by playing the game as you normally would and part two will be the same. Personally I prefer it this way as I can work on it with one character and not have to worry about having to spend gold on each individual character to get it. If Blizz made it gold again then they would turn it into a gold sink. We are already getting a 5million gold mount to waste time trying to get, do you really want to start paying 150k for flying for each of your characters.
05/15/2018 07:52 PMPosted by Withpuppyshope you guys love pathfinder, because here is the prerequisites for part 1
http://www.wowhead.com/news=284424/road-to-acquire-flying-in-battle-for-azeroth-pathfinder-part-one
one day they will stop forceing us to do this crap. like seriously i only did legions pathfinders cause 1) i was laid off from work and had 6 months to do part one and most of part 2.(part 2 took me a bit cause I went back to work but I got it done cause I had to in order to fly at all) and it was content i would have done anyways lol. this isnt D3 devs please stop with this nonsense already its not fun at all. i only do the pathfinder achieves cause im forced to if i wanna fly ever at any point.
I also understand as ive seen from legion most of the first part can be done by just lvling alone which I'm not new to but being grounded from 110-120 is plenty after that I don't care to be grounded anymore and if they wanna keep it that way for a lil while remove the stupid STUN world mobs do then
05/17/2018 05:35 AMPosted by Losardo you really want to start paying 150k for flying for each of your characters.
150K? Do people not remember that buying flight at level cap was expensive for the expansion it was being purchased in?
Legion flight would have cost a couple hundred thousand gold if adjusted for inflation.
Pathfinder is a superior model in all regards except one: immediate convenience.