Play a human and the rep is a lot easier.
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Next time you want to claim youâve never played BFA, maybe try posting on a character that isnât an allied race that requires you to play BFA to unlock it.
Thatâs like saying âAs someone who has never played Horde.â while posting on a level 60 Horde character.
I am pretty sure they already dropped the part 2 of that anyway. You should have returned next expansion and you might have got flying for free.
All you have to do to get flying in Shadowlands is the story campaign. It unlocks like two weeks into the 9.1 patch or something like that. Are you saying that following the story line is too grindy?
he only unlocked those last month.
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so what youâre saying, is that you have extra reason to want flight, but still donât want to engage with the game enough to unlock it.
k. 
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Oh, I literally just assumed it was another rep grind and decided I wasnât even going to look into it 
. I also got Legion flying for a similar reason. I just didnât bother to look into it but oh look I unlocked pathfinder 2 somehow, neat.
Thatâs actually a nice change, ngl.
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posting as a dark ironâŠnever played BFA
next time you buy an account or charâŠpay for one with the achievement.
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As someone who did the grind when it was currentâŠ
The rep requirement is total :$(&„~ÂŁ<âŹ^*% 
garbage. Nazjatar is a toilet. Mechagon is the only somewhat tolerable zone without flight because of the jetpack. BFAâs islands can sink into the ocean, Queen Azshara can have that trash.
Donât force returners and newbies to endure this virtual sewage.
quite the negative statement for someone on a vulpera to make. sigh.
Just keeping it real 
if youâre new or leveling, you go play through for 8 levels and move on.
if you want to go back and do stuff, do the daily emissaries to chip away at flight.
so much drama. 
I just donât feel itâs right to force new/returning players to do repetitive filler to enjoy the freedom players who did it while current already have. Especially when said content was panned by many at release (see all the Pathfinder whine threads).
If I was new or returning, joined, saw people flying over my head to kill objectives faster than I could reach them, then realized I couldnât get that freedom for almost a month AND this content is outdated? At best Iâd never want to touch BFA content again or go back and experience it, or at worst Iâd quit. Bad game design on both counts. It punishes the player for not having, rather than encouraging the player to go get it.
nobody is being forced to do anything.
either they want the thing, or they donât.
it unlocks flight for the entire account, plus a funky bird mount.
this seems to come entirely from a point of entitlement.
I donât know. The point of my original post was that I, personally, never felt like I needed flying. Itâs more of a minor QoL thing if at all. Quests are so tightly packed that it feels like wasted keystrokes to mount up, most of the time. Then you could say herb and fishing, but even then I just used the flight paths that are quite literally everywhere. They just donât design land masses like Kalimdor anymore.
Is it entitlement? Again, I ground it out. In fact I did it multiple times because Iâm kind of a masochist who wants my current main to have Exalted bars on major reps in current content.
It wasnât fun. Games are supposed to be fun. WoW was built on the foundation of moving away from the EQ1-style âI walked uphill for 15 miles in the snow to get what I wantâ style of early MMO gameplay. The devs are weirdly reverting back to that playstyle⊠in the 2020s. Vanguard, Wildstar, multiple MMOs have crashed and burned trying to appeal to that âgit gud and earn every scrap, scrubâ playstyle. Itâs just too niche these days. It doesnât sell.
Again, Iâve been there and done that. Doesnât affect me in the slightest. But what about others? I just donât want anyone new to be turned off to this great game because of annoying little things like this.
donât assume that everyone is you.
there would be plenty of people (myself included) who wouldnât bother with grinding rep on more than one character⊠unless i wanted rewards specific to that rep.
there have been plenty of new players explaining how they enjoy the idea of having goals to work towards.
just because itâs a game, doesnât mean every aspect has to be everyones idea of âfunâ.
sometimes a thing is worth the âuphill barefoot in the snowâ, just for the reward when you get to the top.
Yes, I too am curious as to the DID incrogruity. Ignoring that for a moment, this reminds me of getting uber butthurt when I came back in late legion and couldnât fly. So I understand the OPs frustration. That being said, itâs clear you have played at least some of bfa. So just finish it off to hit 50, do SL till 60, then come back to bfa and one shot everything. The only issue is the rep. This is where I agree. Blizz implemented permanent 200% rep for legion. They should do the same for bfa.
At the same time, you canât assume everyone is you and would be okay with the grind rather than just feeling awful about it and quitting. WoW canât afford to lose people by sitting on a high horse right now. Gameâs old. Successful, but old. It needs to gather and actually retain players.
Pleasing the hardcore with satisfying, well-earned rewards vs. driving off too many players with anti-casual barriers has been a struggle for MMOs since the late 90s. Blizzard swung one way, then violently swung in the other direction.
I think I joined at the same time as you!
I made my character in April 2019 but sadly I was kinda stupid so didnât get into the ârealâ content until 8.2.5.