Why would having an easier time with alts be a bad thing? If a person has more viable (meaning caught up with these grinds) characters that person would more than likely branch out into more roles. Would more variety be a bad thing in the group finder?
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I have 4 characters that I could take into a raid today. Not that raids other than mythic are competitive content.
Alts are fine at the moment, sans the need for better reputation gains without the constant grind. If youāre expecting them to be raid ready, then expect to do that work.
I would be good with if you unlock an Essence on your main, you could buy it for your alts from Magni or something.
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only for a million gold - I would be okay with this then
For discussions sake, what do you think of what I said above in that players could obtain BoA azerite chunks to give their alts?
Azerite chunks as in azerite power for the neck ? Why would there be a need, all you have to do is play the mission board to keep the neck pretty much up there and with how the knowledge mechanism works just top it up a bit to get an alt raid āreadyā.
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Thereās fairly good catchup mechanisms now. You automatically go to level 35 on your neck when unlocking the Heart Forge quest (did it with a fresh dinged 120), and between the Bentic gear and the free 370 weapon from Naz, you can at least be competent out the gate. Doing the War Campaign quests also tends to bump them up to the 40s to unlock the main Azerite traits.
Rings/trinkets are available via WQs enough to fill in, until/unless you want to farm the Mechagon crafted upgrades. You can also fill in with the Mobile app missions for your alts if you want to grind the extra AP on the back burner.
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Aye.
Mainly because itās (for me) the one huge turn off of re-rolling Horde right now. You get to 35 baseline now, but it had taken a lot of time and effort for me to reachā¦idk what Iām at nowā¦53?
To me, the idea of having to relevel that HoA is a lot more damning than having to re-obtain essences.
Yeah but in my opinion, HoA at level 35 is just way off the mark to where it needs to be with utilizing the new Essence system. Iām not bummed about gear or essences, Iām bummed that there isnāt more padding for the general catchup on Azerite.
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If anything was done, Iād hope it was something akin to the old MoP Commendation system that doubled rep gains from quests/dailies/etcā¦ That way alts would still need to put some time in to obtain the essences but it would decrease the time a good bit.
Regarding AP itself, that hasnāt been an issue for me. My alts ignore Emissaries that award AP or Resources. I do the gear and gold ones, along with capping islands each week. That takes very little time and all of my alts Horde side are 55, almost 56. My Hunter is almost 57. My Alliance warlock(of which Iāve literally played twice since 8.2, both times to catch up on her 3 emissaries and weekly island cap) is at 54. Another week or two and 55 will be a joke to get to for even fresh 120ās.
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It unlocks the primary Essence slot, and lets you unlock the basic Azerite traits. As the AK progresses each week, it will also continue to get easier for alts, but no, I neither would expect or want to grind 13-14 120 characters to try and unlock all of the HoA perks.
Well this would just be for my third alt. Autai is one of the alts. I couldnāt even begin to imagine the insanity of having 10+ alts and regrinding Azerite.
Just use your time wisely and have a little patience. It isnāt hard at all to get the neck up to 55 without doing much. Most of my (active) characters are there from just doing the normal day to day stuff.
My character who did islands expeditions for a few weeks for the essence is 57 now.
I have a 111 dh who in a couple of months go the neck up to lvl 43 with just doing the AP quests in the assaults.
To be fair, this is probably whatās the core of my issue. I havenāt done IE at all except the intro questlines to it.
3000 for completing the weekly then you could get a treasure map that gives you double that again.
I appreciate the tips. It is still discouraging to think about (for me at least), but I guess Iāll have to get into IEs more.
Just make sure you do the champs emissaries and the better wq in nazjatar. There is one up for 600 for a couple of minutes of playing
Oh no worries on WQs, I am very choosy about the ones I do haha. Nah I think the best thing to do is to do IE, especially if it gives as much as you say it does. It seems like Iāve been crippling my obtaining of Azerite, by not participating in them.
Actually the weekly is 3500 not 3000 and if you get a group together instead of queueing they go really fast.
Weekly quest Azerite for the Alliance / Azerite for the Horde now rewards 3500 AP (was 2500).
and this explains the treasures maps that can also reward you with another 3500 if your mission is successful but this is rng
https://www.wowhead.com/island-expeditions-guide#weekly-quest-changes-and-treasure-maps
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Yea, doing the island cap each week is a ton of AP. Mythic or Heroic donāt take long at all to do really, 3 Mythic or 4 Heroic. Or 5 normals(I think) if that is more to your liking. Also remember capping islands each week gives 1500 Honorbound/7th Legion rep. So about 7 weeks will be a Paragon cache(2500 more AP). Realistically, itās more like 3-4 weeks, assuming you do those Emissaries as well.
Thatās not even counting the possible AP mission you can get from the treasure map.
I never want AP, but itās usually what I get. I prefer the 5000 gold, ha. Though I also love islands since I want all the mounts so I donāt mind running them on everyone. 
I hate dumb responses like this. Yea guysā¦ itās all in our headsā¦
No, itās the fact people want relevant alts. I have had relevant alts since wrath. I didnāt have to farm out rep to have a competitive alt. I didnāt have to long quest chains to have a relevant alt. I didnāt have to farm azerite to have a relevant alt.
You know what I needed?
Gear. Thatās what mattered. When loot master was taken away, that made gearing alts just a little tougher in raids. Even if someone doesnāt need something, they canāt even give it to you if the ilvl is high. Now gear takes a back seat to Azerite talents. If your spec relies on a specific Azerite trait, you can drop nearly 30 ilvls just to get that trait.
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