Then be the bigger man and start doing it. Some raid leads have started doing it, I’ve had a couple asking me stuff. I’ve even led some groups through N BoD doing it.
I get it’s not the same, but why would you go back to being a caveman?
If by caveman you mean having to spend a lot of time to get somewhere, I never felt that way at all. But the thing is in my opinion is that the game is far better if it’s requiring me to take my time and immerse myself within the world that they’ve created while also making friends, moreso than having the blitz mentality that the game currently has.
That’s my other question, how are you not immersed? You got 400ilvl items, you’ve done heroics, you’ve even gotten honor level 63, and you’re not immersed? You’re even on an RP server like I am, and you’re really not immeresed?
A lot of people flaming you but i have to say everything you said 100% resonates with my opinions about the state of the game and the expansions.
Which is exactly why i said i would play classic and tbc remakes.
Thx op, great post.
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Why bother with facts when you can just drink a frosty can of that good old diet racism.
Well it boils down to the gameplay, story and how they’ve built the world.
Gameplay wise, I experienced what the game was when it had an RPG mindset to it. That being inconveniences like ammo and feeding my pet. What that did for me was give me things to do in my down time. Needing money in my pockets to purchase the equipment I need and to be able to feed my good boi. I’m aware it’s not real but I’m an animal lover. And having a mechanic where keeping my pet happy by feeding him makes me happy.
Story wise it’s all over the place. The zones they’ve created look cool by the reasoning as to why I’m there just doesn’t have any weight to it.
Why am I in Dazar’alor? To fight a war that directly came after a demon invasion where we all worked together…MAKES SENSE TO ME!
We’re here to reclaim Darkshore! Does Warfront Alrighty, well that didn’t take much effort. Alright all power god mode Tyrande, what’re we doing next? Wh…what do you mean you feel satisfied?
How are the Pandaren okay with burning down a tree? How is it that the Horde can go through another tyrant Warchief and not do anything after everything that came after MoP? How is it that Lorthemar, who threatened Sylvanas when she suggested that she would raise dead Blood elves in Siege of Orgrimmar, just all of a sudden okay with her not only killing his people but then raising them under the attack on Lordaeron.
It’s just all over the place man. Nothing really makes sense in this current expansion in terms of story.
As to the world nothing feels dangerous at all. And even being on an RP realm, I’m put in shards with people from different realms due to CRZ. World Quests can be completed with ease solo and really there are no unique secrets or things to explore. And even if you do explore and find some treasure you can get!
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Gold and War resources…
Even on an RP realm. I don’t feel immersed at all. I’m not really spending a lot of time in these zones because I’m blitzing through them. I’m not having to take my time and experience the dungeons because I’m blitzing through them. I’m not getting to experience people on my realm because the game shards me away from them.
Across the board, I’m not having fun.
Well you have to actually read the quests before you do them to understand what’s going on and why. Nothing is preventing you from doing that either.
Note if you actually finish the war campaign you’ll udnerstand why we went to Drazar’alor. And you’ll also understand why the Zandalari trolls release was held off.
The World Quests? Most of them just say…
“Hey! Bad guy is doing a thing. Kill him for it!”
Which then I DPS down a mob that barely fights back and after 15-30 seconds I win.
The war campaign is irrelevant because I think the war overall makes no sense.
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How does it make no sense? I will help you understand everything.
I understand what’s happening. I just disagree with the way the story is being taken. The Alliance and Horde had to ban together to stop a world wide demon invasion and the thing that comes directly after our victory is a war between 2 factions? That’s…that’s dumb.
What’s even worse is the fact that we already did the “evil warchief” story and everyone didn’t immediately pounce on Sylvanas the moment she started raising dead Horde soldiers. And again there are factions within the Horde that would have disagreed with the burning of Teldrassil that haven’t even spoken one word.
I chose not to read too far into the original post because it read like one of those clickbait stories (“You’ll never believe what happened when a dog met a panda”). While I do find myself interested in what happened, the last thing I want to do is read the entire back story for one’s explanations. Be blunt and to the point, and I’ll read what you have to say. No offense intended. It doesn’t even have to be a TL;DR version. Doesn’t need bullet points. “WotLK ruined wow because: ____. It was one of 3 major expacs that ruined wow. The other two are ____, because and ____, because.” not so hard.
Sylvanas burned Teldrassil. You can look into why there.
I know the why. I just think it’s dumb. There are factions and races within the Horde that would have said hell no to the burning. Not one of them has said anything about it.
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and that’s where I stopped reading.
In a room full of angry WoW players:
Person 1-Bfa: BFA is when the game finally died, boring and has too much rng.
Person 2-Legion: NO NO NO, legion adding rng Legendaries and WQ’s killed the game. Legion also had too much RNG too Person 1!
Person 3-WOD: Aaaa Hello…WoD added things like the garrison and there were jack-all to do in the open world, WoD is to blame for the down fall of WoW. And lets not forget the mission table and the major pruning of our classes.
Person 4-MoP: You guys are wrong, Mop adding CRZ was the nail in the coffin for World interaction…RIP realm immersion. Also pandas…really. Yea Mop killed WoW. Oh and Person 2, Mop added “ThunderForging” which spawned WF/TF, so Mop is to blame.
Person 5-Cata: Nope sooooo incorrect. Cata adding LFR was the true reason why WoW died. Also, Deathwing couldn’t get me excited one bit for the story unlike king Arthas.
Person 6- Wrath: You guys are idiots. Wrath added LFD and made gear catching up too easy. Also DKs were WAY overpowering ruining pvp and pve. Also Arthas is overrated, come at me Person 5!
Person 7-TBC: See people think Wrath and Cata and so on were the main reasons for WoW’s down fall but surprisingly, TBC is to blame. They added things like Flying and Heroic Dungeons, it just ruined the game. And Arenas…really why do we need arenas?
Person 8-Patch 1.12: Actually you guys, patch 1.12 was the beginning of WoW’s down fall, they started making everything easy in preparation for TBC. RIP 1.5 AV… So I win this debate right?
I think we get the point.
X for doubt.
Classic didnt happen because they wanted to. Classic happened because they needed to. As a company they have plummeted since wotlk (highest sub counts.)
Its obvious through numbers, opinions and changes in game that the more expansions they release, the more sub dwindle. Classic most likely a last ditch effort for the WOW part of blizzard to stay relevant in MMO world. If not, the game will just of remained active until eventual (loss in profit) closure.
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My bad, I typed that in a hurry. I should have gone with something else. Updated to clarify that racists don’t actually deserve that much credit.
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ttps://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1416564-What-if-the-LFG-existed-in-TBC/page3
See if that works, missing one h from the link : 3 i’m not trying to sound stubborn, i just played through that time, it was there, people tried it, didn’t work so it got rolled back, but it was there.
I’m beginning to guess that the ‘Server’ community people are referring to from the “good old days” was actually the tiny percentage actually involved in raiding (something that was daunting enough I didn’t even approach it until I was literally yanked into it at the end of BC). Unfortunately I have no way of getting data on that. I suppose one could use armory and search if people have the classic raid achievements at the time lich king dropped but I don’t think they were actually awarded then. My sneaky suspicion though is that the vast majority of players were excluded from content because they weren’t part of that ‘community’ of self selected individuals.
Note: quotes are used here because a small subculture is not a Community in the traditional sense but rather just a select group.
Either way that’s my two completely wrong cents.