BFA actually did do one thing right

BFA gets a lot of (relatively rightfully deserved) hate, but there is one good thing that often gets overlooked: the expansion gave us as much raid content as Legion with the exception of one boss, and more than Shadowlands, WoD, and Dragonflight. For context:

MoP: 5 raids, 42 bosses
Legion: 5 raids, 40 bosses
BFA: 5 raids, 39 bosses
WoD: 3 raids, 30 bosses
Shadowlands: 3 raids, 31 bosses
Dragonflight: 3 raids, 26 bosses

This doesn’t automatically make it a good expansion, and I’m definitely not out to try and defend BFA overall, but the amount of raid content is at least worthy of some praise.

…Also, in putting together the numbers I just realized how little Dragonflight actually had to offer raiders compared to past expansions.

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It’s one of my favourite expansions. People are just mean :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Yeah bfa was like a 7 or 8 out of 10 imo.
I had a lot of fun with it.
Plus the zones were beautiful and the story was amazing (early on at least. It did get a bit random at times such as casually falling in to the sea and fighting Azshara… that was different)

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BfA gets a lot of silly hate. No one in their right mind plays a game they hate.

Maybe you play if your a little disappointed with certain aspects of the game but to actually hate a game and still pay the company to play it? That’s makes no sense at all.

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BfA had a fairly interesting campaign on the Alliance side, Mechagon and Nazjitar in one patch and EP was a good raid, and then we got Visions and Nyalotha plus corruption to end it all off. For me it was the later half of BfA that kicked it into overdrive and rocked.

I was practically asleep in the first half of it though.

We also got loads of new race models to play!

I think we see that removing a raid tier basically removes an amount of bosses that would be in that raid, makes sense.

  • Battle for Azeroth – 2 years 2 months 12 days (804 days)
  • Mists of Pandaria – 2 years 1 month 19 days (779 days)
  • Wrath of the Lich King – 2 years 24 days (754 days)
  • Legion – 1 year 11 months 15 days (714 days)
  • Burning Crusade – 1 year 9 months 28 days (667 days)
  • Cataclysm – 1 year 9 months 18 days (658 days)
  • Warlords of Draenor – 1 year 9 months 17 days (656 days)

… dragonflight: 637 days

bosses per day
legion: 0.056
mop: 0.054
BFA : 0.048
wod: 0.046
dragonflight: 0.040

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I didn’t play at the start of BFA, but once I picked it up I simply enjoyed it. Definitely don’t have many major complaints about it, no matter how many raid bosses it had in comparison to other expansions.

BfA was a fun and solid expansion plagued by Legion’s horrendous “spec-redesign” for artifact weapons we lost after the expansion.

If Legion didn’t screw up specs and tie everything into a one-expansion wep, BfA would have been much better received at the time. So it’s really Legion’s fault why BfA is considered “bad.”

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Actually, i kinda miss Shadowlands because it had all those 4 zones which had some cool vibes to them. Vampiric zone, greek mythology zone, etc.

Thorghast was a good idea but then they forced it onto players. If it was an option thing, then it would have been better.

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BfA was awesome, I can’t wait for a remix of that! I missed it live, would like a taste of how it was.

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The largest dislike for me was the slowest trickle of content ever that they gave us at a time during the actual expansion. I sort of just checked out by the time nazjatar came out.

I remember being excited for a patch and it was like 3 quests of smuggling Jaina’s brother to her. Lol

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wut revisionist nonsense is this

BFA was horrendous and poorly received because of the ridiculous azerite and heart of azeroth system where you had to farm specific armor with specific things on it, feeding the beast only to then have to regrind when replacing it. They then went on to change that system mid stream multiple times due to how silly it was.

and then the raid drops were dogwater because they were handcuffed by the silly heart of azeroth system.

The fact that you’re omitting one of the worst concepts in wow’s history which was poorly received and caused mass disinterest in progression as a result is baffling.

couple that with the ridiculously bad island expeditions which were an absolutely tedious grind (hurr durr best way to get neck juice) and those silly whatever fake pvp outpost farms with that fake-feeling “contribution cycle” (that I wanted to gouge my eyes out over because priestess’ moonsaber) you have an expansion that felt more like an experiment to see what they could get away with.

On top of that the sharding w/warmode and the goofy/phasing/broken bounty system to “bring world pvp back” aka “camping a tiny little area” … mmmmkay

With more time and thought it might have clicked.

But hey, a turtle made it to the water and uhhhh crazy hidden quests and uhhhh bee mount

ALL that said, it felt like WoW, the theming was pretty great. I think that’s why what they did with it was a bit meh

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BFA did plenty right. Was the last expansion that actually felt like wow. All SL did was Sire Denathreus.

i’m happy some people liked it. sorry to those that didn’t.

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I mean the writing was downright atrocious due to the writers favoring Sylvanas HARD while butchering her character at the same time and retconning a lot of stuff.

And Azerite Gear can burn in hell for all eternity.

Plus that expansion had several features being failures and downright abandoned, being Warfronts and Island Expeditions

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BFA did lots of things right.

But yeah, we’re unlikely to ever see that much content in one expansion ever again.

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As much as I rag on BfA, it was a good expac content wise. (Sylvanas was just annoying)

We also got introduced to Bwonsamdi, my current favorite character.

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Id call DF a “filler episode” when it comes to Expacs. Its not really game chaning or gravity defining. But its a nice breather where we all just have a quick break. A Vacation arc of sorts in Anime.

Azerite gear was pretty bleak at launch, but it really isn’t any different from targeting bis gear based on stats. Despite Heart of Azeroth being another “borrowed power”, the 8.2 traits were really great, and AP grinding in BfA is forever better than the nonsense AP grinding in Legion where you were literally spec-locked because AP only went on one weapon.

Nothing revisionist about pointing out Legion’s failures. Tying all of our spec power into one expansion and then not carrying it over is entirely on Legion.

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