Theres almost no reason to play PvP currently it seems; you can either, sit 25+ min ques in bgb or ss, sit 3-5 min qs in 3s, (thats only if you can get lucky enough to find a team in lfg), or you can pace around Dornogol.
Bad rewards = no one cares. The tabard is lame, illusions unusable, mount is ugly (and virtually impossible to get until 4 months in). The only great part is the elite sets.
Pvp needs a rewards overhaul. Make healing worth it. If you play healer, glad is wins above 2200, or put the mount in SS, we need SOMETHING.
I want to pvp but I don’t want to sit 30min ss qs or que into awc teams 5 min into a q because they cant find anyone my mmr in 3s .
We’ve seen 4 expacs now of proof that lowering reward threshold actually hurts not helps.
Unironically the unchained crimson shuffle forged blitz seasons and blizzards hair brain idea to artificially raise MMR towards the end of the season is the real problem.
Hey man wanna q? Why were 2200 just wait a couple months and we’ll be 2600. Oh okay
Giving everyone a free gladiator in unchained and having this dial they turn up to give us fake CR is what’s causing people to not wanna play
Not to mention flavor of the month meta gaming has gotten out of control. Hey anyone wanna q up and fight 10 different frost mage teams?
Game will explode last month of the season and 8,000 of the 10,000 people Qing arena will get gladiator/legend/strategist in like a week and then go back to playing whatever game is paying Twitch to generate hype and we loop back
I agree with the lowering the threshold thing, unless its healer specific. At this point, healers should be praised like gods.
But yeah, high mmr = good participation. I personally have a few buddies who have quit this szn temporarily because rewards are basically unobtainable for the average player outside of the end of szn…
Good rewards are also an artificial way to Inject mmr without even injecting it. I mean look at SL s2 and DF S2, s tier sets, and an s tier illusion was enough for people to play. On top of glad being free already.
Disagree, healing has been made easier every patch in modern wow. They don’t cast they add things like rdruid bubble increased stamina lower trinket time. It’s babied enough and people still don’t play it (in shuffle)
Sane competent healers aren’t going to play the bracket with random DPS when they can pick their comp and their players because they’re in such high demand.
Btw zoom out and think if healers get glad in shuffle at 2200 (starter mmr mid season ) they’re done fast and not playing anymore and now no reason the play at all DPS won’t ever find healers cuz they got glad month 1 in shuffle and left the game until next patch.
It being easier or harder isnt even 1/10 of the issue man. Its a completely miserable experience, has nothing to do with the amount of skill. Theres no healers in PvP for a reason
One of the best rewards would be to simply make PvP gear relevant again in respect to PvE. Even if it came at both a much slower pace and delayed start, being able to use PvP gear in PvP would be a huge incentive. While I get Blizzard wants to avoid PvE players feeling like they need to PvP for gear, the current system means PvP gear can barely even be used for starter gear. Upgrading is awful and takes forever and the end gear is still trash.
More rewards in general would be good, but they don’t seem to care about that. Don’t worry though, the trader’s post will have a fresh new set of gear every month! For free!
Honestly, being full conq gear is how I started this szn for m+ and the ilvl isnt bad, especially if people craft your gear at 5 star, you can get to like 640ilvl
Because people don’t like being blamed or having the responsibility of “losing”. It’s completely fair, but it’s a community problem and it’s in every game prettymuch.
Its because its not fun. Watching your dps die without pressing a single button, or seeing your fury warrior leap behind a pillar and die, causing you to lose or being the reason you don’t 3-3, is infuriating. You have almost 0 sway as a healer, and the amount of times you go 3-3 is insane. Healing is completely a miserable experience in all aspects.
It’s not awful, but it’s not a reason for PvE players to want todo PvP. I did push M+ a little last season, and I still replaced every single piece in short amount of time. The path to upgrading gear in PvP is busted and takes an insane amount of time. Even for as much as I play, I still didn’t finish more than half my PvP set.
The best gear in PvP should be as good if not just slightly worse than the best PvE gear. PvE gear should be more about stat allocation, rather than a flat ilvl superiority over PvP gear.
There is just too much of a barrier between PvP and PvE atm. This is exactly how resil and PvP power were. Remove that component and PvE players would be much more willing todo PvP. Who wants to work for two sets of gear?
This is a completely disconnected from reality take, and honestly the devs probably agree and its why pvp is completely dead at this point. No healer will agree with you
Rly? I mean the healer I play with hates shuffle and would rather play reg arena 10 out of 10 times. Dudes playing with like 6 different teams every ssn
Every time he gets bored and qs shuffle I wake up with a paragraph on discord about how whatever warrior should be perma banned and imprisoned for how bad he threw a round
It’s high time that Blizzard stopped negotiating with terrorists anyway. Healers deserve to be afraid during arenasn not babied into being an unviable kill target in 99% of scenarios.