BETA/ALPHA ASAP

its clear that there is a lot of work to be done

and since classic has a smaller team than retail. I think releasing a ALPHA / BETA sooner rather than later, so players can come in and help them find all the problems would greatly help them.

they said they want to make sure abilities work correctly, players can help
they said they need to make sure all the stuff in in the world is there and spawning, players can help

almost everything that needs to be tuned, players will be able to help with by making reports.
Honestly I don't see a reason why a reasonable group of representatives wouldn't be invited to evaluate and present feedback. It's not like there will be spoilers :)
Why? There is absolutely no purpose of beta with Blizzard. They don't listen to feedback. They will release what they release regardless of the quality. That is how they have been for the past few years. There is absolutely no point.
11/03/2018 06:55 PMPosted by Códy
Why? There is absolutely no purpose of beta with Blizzard. They don't listen to feedback. They will release what they release regardless of the quality. That is how they have been for the past few years. There is absolutely no point.


No, this attitude is why blizzard doesnt want to make most changes.

when enough people gather and really push for something. blizzard will actually more often than not make a change.

but if you just roll over at the first sign of resistance of course blizzard wont change..

grow a back bone and stand up and fight for what you want...
11/03/2018 06:55 PMPosted by Códy
Why? There is absolutely no purpose of beta with Blizzard. They don't listen to feedback. They will release what they release regardless of the quality. That is how they have been for the past few years. There is absolutely no point.

Don't keep this defeatist attitude. The demo showed that it still needs plenty of work and it really has no shot if we don't try. Put the bitterness aside and give productive feedback if you can.
11/03/2018 07:04 PMPosted by Hatchmark
11/03/2018 06:55 PMPosted by Códy
Why? There is absolutely no purpose of beta with Blizzard. They don't listen to feedback. They will release what they release regardless of the quality. That is how they have been for the past few years. There is absolutely no point.


No, this attitude is why blizzard doesnt want to make most changes.

when enough people gather and really push for something. blizzard will actually more often than not make a change.

but if you just roll over at the first sign of resistance of course blizzard wont change..

grow a back bone and stand up and fight for what you want...


Legion beta, bfa, wod. There was books of feedback on what was wrong. None of it was listened to. There is no point. They have the attitude that they are right and players are wrong.
11/03/2018 06:51 PMPosted by Hatchmark
its clear that there is a lot of work to be done

and since classic has a smaller team than retail. I think releasing a ALPHA / BETA sooner rather than later, so players can come in and help them find all the problems would greatly help them.

they said they want to make sure abilities work correctly, players can help
they said they need to make sure all the stuff in in the world is there and spawning, players can help

almost everything that needs to be tuned, players will be able to help with by making reports.

I agree with this but they should only invite accounts that date back to vanilla timeline.
11/03/2018 06:51 PMPosted by Hatchmark
its clear that there is a lot of work to be done

and since classic has a smaller team than retail. I think releasing a ALPHA / BETA sooner rather than later, so players can come in and help them find all the problems would greatly help them.

they said they want to make sure abilities work correctly, players can help
they said they need to make sure all the stuff in in the world is there and spawning, players can help

almost everything that needs to be tuned, players will be able to help with by making reports.


Honestly i wouldnt expect beta until after Jan 1. Maybe mid Dec if they wanted to push it. Ancalary systems still need work. If you went to the bank in ratchet, it doesnt even open yet. Its a small thing but lots of small things take time. I have a feeling they want to 86 all the deprecated systems from the Live system in before releasing classic.

Think of it like. Well we got everything we could with our team. Lets see what the testers can find.
11/03/2018 06:55 PMPosted by Códy
Why? There is absolutely no purpose of beta with Blizzard. They don't listen to feedback. They will release what they release regardless of the quality. That is how they have been for the past few years. There is absolutely no point.


Then why are you here? Do yourself the favor to your mental health and just move along if you think they are going to !@#$ you over just because they feel like it.
Probably around January/Feb some type of testing will start.
I do agree that there needs to be a large beta for Classic as there are countless things to test throughout the 1-60 leveling and endgame.