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Drakedog was fighting gold farmers, pre lvl 60. There weren’t good warlock players back in the days. It’s not a class that works well for pvp, too vulnerable to cc and there is no skill cap like Mage/Rogue/Hunter/Warrior.
Best Hunter and warlock at the time was Veev. Hands down
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World of roguecraft debunked drakedog pretty well, and it tells you something you all know but don’t like to think about/admit, which is:
These are edited videos. Streaming wasn’t a thing in vanilla. Speaking as someone who made some vanilla PvP videos, I can tell you a lot of it is bs. You are making it to entertain the audience, and the audience thinking you are better than you are contributes to that.
It’s really simple when you think about it. Duel a guy 10 times, you lose 9 out of 10, but the one you won is the one that makes the video. In the world of roguecraft videos they show drakedog had maybe 6% crit chance, and would only put in clips where he happened to crit opponents, which means he cut out maybe 90% of all the stuff he recorded.
Here’s an example of something I would do:
Get fully flasked up/buffed up etc. Have an addon that can selectively hide buffs… so I’m running around fully buffed but the audience cannot see it. You can also have consumeables on hidden action bars that might pass notice.
One particularly good example of this was in a video I made in cataclysm (I know, not vanilla, but same principle)
I would camouflage (with glyph at the time camo was full stealth with movement), and drink a potion that increased my stealth level, and the buff would be hidden by an addon. I had scatter shot macro’d to a cancelaura for the potion so the target rogue would never know I had the buff to begin with, end result is it was impossible for the rogue to see me in stealth before I already destealthed him.
Just a little tidbit about dishonesty in pvp videos. Enjoy!
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Drakedog was super good but I also really enjoyed Eos’s videos, he was pretty solid too!
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Favorite video mages:
All around amazing - Gegon
Best PvPer - Vurtne
Coolest - Badrasta
Best editing - The “Unknown” mage a.k.a Pathologist
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It is true for some cases, it isn’t for others.
For example: Pat, a well know warrior from Vanilla became famous because he did a video very fun to watch, with nice editing and huge damage, but he had 4 healers following him while he was using lots of buffs AND he recorded the video with 52 talent points (mortal strike and death wish) that was hot fixed soon after.
Laintime is a completly different warrior that used to makes video on disadvantage situations, without healer support, fighting 1x2 or 1x3 against well geared players.
That same Laintime was away from WoW for many years because he went to army in Korea. He came back shortly (I dont remember if it was at the end of WotLK or Cataclysm) on a season that warriors were at the very botton of representation in arena (thanks Ghostcrawler and his crazy changes that would make classes goes from top to botton or bottom to top in one patch). Then he achieved RANK 1 GLADIATOR in this very season. The guy was a beast. You can’t deny it.
If you ask any veteran pvper warrior about Laintime (if they know him), they will tell you about how amazing he was, and that isn’t because he made fun video to watch. Thats because a veteran pvper will be able to see and analise his techiniques that are very impressive even for today standards. I don’t know, try to ask Bajheera what he thinks about Laintime.
Vurtne is another example of a player fighting at almost impossible odds. A blue geared mage killing a Marshall and 2 others purple geared on 1x3 and you think it was just entertainment video?
TL’DR: I agree and disagree because it depends of the individual players. Some were famous only for good video editing. Others were really good and their techiniques pretty much made the rules of how play their classes even today.
I like what you’ve put down for everything but best editing, I love this dudes style:
Honorable mention Angwe.
Not because of skill, but because of dedication. He was the antithesis of Horde Rogue ganking players and causing mass grief. He was a huge reason why (aside the meme undead rogue) that Alliance players hate Horde Rogues in general.
Best Paladin: Jamaz
The editing is well done but drags on for a bit too long for me. I think this mage/warlock video is some where in between yours and mine. I hated the little evil voice narration but everything else was great for me.
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Then of course there’s a Drakedog video that Pathologist edited.
Francis was THE trendsetter for mages early 2005. He was the first that took what we were all figuring out and put it in a video.
Then came orangemarmalade shortly after using engineering. Both were from korea.
Vurtne was nothing but a coattail rider in better gear. He just got the publicity because he showed up late to the game.
Swifty was absolutely ahead of his time in Vanilla, regardless of how he is now, to act like that, especially if you were on Darkspear is just willful ignorance. He also was one of the highest rated warriors on Darkspear up through early WotLk. I never saw you in ranking premades but I did see him. (I was in Remnant)
I was one of the only 3 hunters on darkspear horde to get rank 13. I was not in remnant.
Its common knowledge that he paid people to throw fights.
I played on darkspear in the early days before BC. The best pvp guild was Remnant by far. We used to smash pretty much everyone.
Connact, Malhavok, shoeman, just a few that I remember.
Anyone else from Remnant playing classic now?
Gonna give it to Happyminti for rogues. Dude had so, so many long unedited fights against hordes of horde piling into BRM where he comes out on top thanks to some very quick thinking and great cooldown use, despite his gear being pretty unimpressive.