Anyone knows a really good guide on how to build a Paladin class?
Like how to spent points on talants and gear to aim for while leveling?
Same of what to do when you reach level cap and attempt to do Raid content?
I can’t recommend any specific guide, but they’re all pretty much the same anyway. Go ret, pick up the talents that boost your damage or movement speed, and go do quests. Paladin leveling doesn’t have many ways to go wrong.
So I can just do whatever I want until Cap?
Seal of command -> pursuit of justice
-> vengeance.
Everything else is just whatever.
Get a slow 2 handed weapon.
3 Likes
Pretty much. You can also try a tanking build if you want, but that will slow down your questing significantly, and leave you a sitting duck in PvP if that’s your thing.
This is pretty much all you need.
1 Like
Auto attack until you or the enemy dies
5 Likes
AoE spec or bust.
you go prot until reckoning and then ret.
Do 11 holy and 11 Ret. This let’s you aoe tank, heal mud combat and dps well vs solo mobs.
I found that fun.
Holy and Rey trees both work well.
Rush consecrate. Then improved ret aura. Then the rest doesn’t matter. Get an out of party druid to heal you while you pull entire camps with thorns and ret aura killing them all. That way you’re killing 10-20 mobs at a time with no xp penalty
I leveled all the way to 60 as holy with a 1h and shield. Tried ret for a moment mid level and i just didnt feel like a total paladin god capable of defeating any quest like i did before
your 1st 11 talents no matter the spec need to be 11 into Holy. you can get 10% str or 10% int but id recommend the int
70% Heal interrupt allows you to solo so many quests much easier and be able to handle adds
from here you can do a number of different things:
if doing the 1h shield like me you can go 5 into prot for redoubt. then maybe go back to Holy
You can go into the ret tree and get some good talents for any paladin. seals and judgement costing 15% less is nice. -2 seconds to judgement and bonus damage to judgement of crusader is nice too. Whether you run Righteousness or Command the bonus damage on Crusader is nice for either while leveling.
after 12-13 into ret for the run speed bonus I then went back into the Holy Tree all the way down to Holy Shock. I also got 5/5 improved Seal of Righteousness instead of imp LoH, fear resist, or bonus healing to holy light and flash of light.
sure your heals are a bit lower but since paladins damage is a weak point it was really nice having a harder hitting Righteousness.
at level 60 theres tons of options really as long as you have 20 into Holy to heal.
I am 31/13/7 for an emphasis on survivability, healing, and bursts of spell damage. So with this spec I have some survivability in Prot as well as kings. I kept the 5/5 imp righteousness for pvp.
I also considered 31/7/13 with a 2h but I just dont feel like a paladin without a shield
3 Likes
I also leveled as primary Holy spec & 1hnd/shield to 60, & didn’t do any dungeons until ZF. Worked fine for me, as I am not a fan of Ret or Prot specs as a primary spec - most especially not in the original Vanilla/Classic version of WoW.
Melee misses as a Paladin is super annoying while leveling (or farming/grinding), so the first thing I did was invest 8 points into Protection for 3/3 Precision & then started in on Holy all the way.
Get a second account and use a mage to boost your paladin lol. It’s is slow going otherwise.
here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18H0AWJMvQSIrFdZMTRYcYZcWBsjCPZmy9eHygEWMsKU/edit
Judgment’s paladin leveling guide
the fastest way to level a paladin is to have a guild all leveling alts at the same time and you play as their healer. after that, if you mean questing, youre gonna be going for consecration and seal of command as early as possible and just afk dps one mob at a time while watching youtube/netflix and then by like level 53 or so you will be able to farm lashers in dire maul east for some xp. after that look to questing in eastern and western plaguelands.
Well now partner i came into Classic the exact same way. 
Let’s look at the options shall we?
Over here on Icy Veins we got supposedly-Paladin authors who in their very own guides for Protection and Retribution specs… down and disrespect Prot and Retribution specs. Credible sources amirite?
Let’s continue now past exhibits B-Y which are dozens of small time websites or reddit talking big-time crap on all Paladin specs except Holy (usually). There are some posters there on reddit though who got Good Math on Protection spec viability (Warcraft Logs: Edikt Netherwind). OR the Da Vinci Code on how to make your Ret not only viable but competitive (Warcraft Logs: Hyperial Whitemane)… That anyone in the “Holy-or-Bust” camp will outright ignore in favor of their vanilla religion which states “ALL-Paladins shall wear the dress and feed off warrior raid scraps.”
So that now leaves us with only our best + last option for Paladin full-spectrum guides to leveling, BiS, and everything else relevant to playing your very OWN Paladin:
WoWHead. Its what I used back in Phase 1, and what I still reference now. It’ll take care of ya friend
1 Like
Did you follow a general guide Kuther or just icyveins or what?
This is where we now must disagree as i separate the wheat from the chaff. The truth from the fiction or “fake news” that people so often spout in Classic about Paladins despite never having gave them a thorough trying out… until now.
Hi Negald 
I’m Actionjckson. Formerly a Phase 1 Incendius-server Prot Paladin who recently transferred to Whitemane. I have, through 5 Phases of my Pursuit of Prot Paladin happiness racked up 124 days /played.
So let’s begin
- Tanking builds do not slow down questing by any means unless we are talking Pursuit of Justice. Prot spec is the “Paladin Porcupine” unlike Holy and to a lesser degree Retribution (Eye for an Eye). Whats meant by this is the Prot Paladin deals damage based on being physically attacked, on top of being tailored to survive those same attacks better than any other tree of Paladin. Meaning the Prot Paladin safely gathers up HORDES of those questing mobs and individually beats them down while all together.
In fact I’d say for questing and using the “Get X from Y mobs”/“Retrieve A resource from B hostile area” templates as the standard, Prot would be your Most Effective Tactic Available. Sure Rets with Seal of the Casino could take maybe 3 or more depending on gear, Prot reliably takes 5+ and comes out thirsty but no worse for the wear from the otherwise suicidal pull.
- PvP is undoubtedly a far more contentious subject on spec viability, with a ton of factors to take into account. However, there we do have 2 specs (Prot/Ret) with a clear benefit vs certain types of enemies (Melee/Casters), when compared to the odd one out (Holy) which still has its own weight it brings in the form of Holy Shock and Holy crit.
Protection Paladin excels against melee classes. For one its a plate armored, melee/spell-caster/healer (all Paladin) with a heavy leaning on the tit-for-tat reflective side (Holy Shield+Blessing of Sanctuary+Reckoning). Shamans do far better against Prot Paladins with the melee+magic thing they do. Vs casters we do worse than Rets without a handy 2h, BS trinket for 30s fear immunity, and other anti-caster gear on hand and still even then are inferior vs casters.
Retribution excel vs Casters with the eye for an eye skill, but aren’t safe from melee the way that Prots are. That is they can lose the DPS race vs Warriors/Rogues in PvP, whereas Prots do better to set the pace. They got a better chance of killing Shamans + Hunters with the speed from Pursuit and hard hitting talents of their tree.
Holy spec has better crits with all Holy spells, has Holy Shock a ranged attack or instant heal, as well as a crit guarantee move usable for any ability. If we look only at these pluses and completely ignore the benefits of Prot/Ret when going against their optimal targets; then yes, Holy is Most Effective Tactics Available versus all. Thats only in a world where Protection doesn’t actually Protect against physical threats and Retribution doesn’t actually Retribut(e) against those that have harmed them…
So summary for PvP:
- Tough on Melee/Monsters = Prot specialty (Melee Killer by design)
- Tough on Casters/Speedsters = Ret specialty (Caster/Ranged killer by design)
- Tough on Healing Allies with all-around utility but no true specialty = Holy (Not a killer by design)
1 Like
You seem to be very knowledgeable about paladins, so I appreciate you chiming in.
In my experience, prot is good for grinding, not questing. Quest mobs generally aren’t gathered closely enough most of the time to make leveling as pure prot worth it. Sure, you sometimes have camps of mobs, but those are relatively few considering all the animals we have to kill. Also, most humanoid camps have a caster or two.
That said, I actually want to level prot since that’s what I’ll be doing in TBC. Care to link a spec and talent order?
No guide, Ive just played a lot of Paladin, both back in the day and now with classic.
70% heal interrupt is just so essential for any paladin spec to be able to maximize their effectiveness.
3 Likes