I finally finished my conquest set and am now looking to push. What are the best ele shaman comps to push into glad range. My understanding is I need comps that can beat ret/war, rmp, and jungle.
thunder, ww/ele, ele/mage, ele/boomy all seem p deco
So I queued with some random monk/priest last night. They were a “chill 1800 group”. I check pvp them and they never hit 2k in 3s before. Figured it was the perfect opportunity to try the crit 1 shot build.
Not joking - we won in the open the first 9 games. The 10th game was a glad team that tanked their mmr to get the friend wins. We ended up with a 20-5 winrate and playing at 2200mmr / got everyone their 2k achieve.
We had little coordination. I am thinking monk might be the play?? Or maybe I can find a mage and farm even easier wins.
At your mmr ww is prob your best bet with how outrageous they are and teams at that mmr not knowing how to properly trade cool downs and read their goes
We faced a mw, priest, warrior comp at 2100.
Monk sets up on priest . Priest trinket fades. Priest disperses out of fade. Monk trades cocoon and priest fears my monk. I 1 tap priest with my go.
Our priest was running dark ark and I ran skyfury. At one point I double crit a prot paladin for 52k with lightning bolt (1 shot from this, didn’t even get my second stormkeeper bolt off). Was pretty funny to get these easy wins after trying to play a legit setup game most of the season.
Now I’m starting to realize that boomie ele isn’t the play. It takes so much work to get a kill. I wonder if I can 1 shot my way to my first glad …
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Trying to get Elemental Glad this season is probably not a good idea. It’s probably weaker than warlock in this meta. Only person that keeps Elemental Shaman alive is rdruid, and even then every caster is a better win condition than the clunky stormkeeper goes.
not true + u suck + ratio
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If you want 1st time glad on shaman resto and enhance are way more viable go look at the ladder on drustvar.
I’m slowly grinding my friend to first glad playing thunder on his resto druid and its going fine but someone whos trying to reach a reasonable rank first time likely shouldn’t choose something that is mediocre instead go a S tier comp like WPS, or Turbo.
Guys I don’t think he’s asking for what’s better but how to make ele work lol
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Play with a broken melee (WW or Warrior) or a good Fire Mage. Those are prob the best 3 comps with Rdruid and Hpal being the healers of choice.
hpalla is a bad healer.
boomy ele is a very damp comp, rlly can only win by dragging out the game to really long levels and playing to live so it may not be ur favorite playstyle
maybe Kam could be of better help he’s had more than a few glads on ele so he’d be able to help a lot more than me
hello ive played ele since bfa s2
here are some comps, best 2 are prob ele/arms ele/fire
ele/arms/rdruid-mistweaver (the comp ive played the most)
ele/fire/rdruid-hpriest
As ele/arms/rdruid (thunder) youre going to be the primary kill target and its a painful experience getting ran at by 2 banana gobbling apes (ret/war turbo jungle etc) but the comp is focused on doing as much damage as possible while taking as little damage as possible.
A good “go” for this comp is have your warrior stormbolt the second dps, you lasso the kill target and your healer (whatever it is) crosses the healer, in between these goes just do damage and play to not die
ele/fire/x is almost entirely settup based and your kill windows rely VERY LARGELY on getting clean combusts, so the mage will poly healer while you lasso kill and your healer crosses the other dps if you or the mage cant (drop control of lava for skyfury as this comp probably)
other comps you can play that can be good but arent the best are
ele/balance/rdruid-rsham-mistweaver, comp is one of the most boring in the game, play to not die
ele/destro/rdruid-disc-mistweaver, I played ele/destro/disc to 2550 or so this season, play a mix of settup and passive damage, find windows to lasso so your warlock can get bolts off (not worth dropping control of lava for skyfury if youre with a lock)
ele/ww/x
ele/ret/x
ele/bm/rdruid
hope this helps a bit
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Yeah I also played a few games with necro rdruid, necro shadow priest, necro ele. We just felt like unkillable livelords who auto win on mana. Especially with our double purge, we beat the rdruid mirrors which feels great .
Yeah i don’t think boomie ele is the play. Boomie is too weak right now. It’s rough having an 8 minute win condition when your enemy has a 2 global win condition - you gotta peel every go correctly and also be lucky they don’t get any big crits at the right time.
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Don’t want to be a downer but Rdruid Ele Spriest isn’t too strong at 23-2800 atm. It’s not being played at a Glad level at any remote success and most people griefing me on this post aren’t even 2k right now.
I think it could potentially pull games out but the druid would have to play out of their mind to beat a melee comp with double caster on their team. They can tunnel the spriest all day and 1 tap the psyfiend so you as a rdruid will have to heal into a MS, potentially a purger, and people doing consistently more damage than your casters can ever do.
I think the rdruid spriest ele could def beat RMP though, disc variants on mana big time. However the team that is just stronger against RMP would be TSG, WPD, WPS, Jungle, or Ret Hunter Priest.
At end of the day why choose elemental shaman over a spriest or firemage or even a destro lock. All 3 do more things to win the game over an Elemental Shaman. Especially if you focus on kicking his nature anytime he hexes stormkeepers or lassos.
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Yeah after more testing, I feel like ele/ww and ele/war are the two best comps. The big issue is that ww and war both have better comps.
Ele ww seems good because the WW puts out such an insane amount of pressure that the enemy can’t really respond to stormkeeper 1 shots well. They can’t just sit in place and hide behind a pillar, or the ww cleaves the whole team down. The grounding totem , shear, purge, and skyfury get a lot of value in this comp.
Ele/war is also solid , but needs triple cc coordination to get anything done. Also, war can just queue with any melee , mage, or shadow priest and have a better comp. Its probably the best ele comp, but a below average comp for warriors.
Elemental is a B tier Caster with A Tier Damage. Look at the difference Infernal > Fire Elemental, Stormkeeper < Combust/Necrolord Pet/Psyfiend/Darksoul/Demonbolts/Legit every Melee cooldown in history of Shadowlands a single global execute is beating stormkeeper double global (CRITS). Ele consistent Dot Damage and Lavaburst Crits are nice, but the on demand damage is super lacking and thats what you need to close out games.
If you don’t crit on Stormkeepers/Earthshock, goodluck killing any gladiator with a monitor on. They can straight up pre wall, ground echo shock notifications on Weak Auras or Omnibar, or better yet stun fear you on stormkeeper goes. We don’t have good survivability either compared to other classes Astral Shift is a joke and our healing surges are weak in comparison with other hybrid healing. (Enhance, Feral, Ret, Spriest, hell even mages heal more than ele shamans).
9.0 Elemental Shamans were amazing before pre lavaburst nerf, we could funnel huge damage and get massive echoshock lavabursts off with primordial wave which was guarenteed damage and how I was able to grind up to 3k mmr. A melee cleave with any remote brain this seasonwill completely invalidate a elemental shaman and kick nature 24/7. Also completely outpace our damage - I average 3-3.5k DPS per game and its not even close to what a good warrior, WW, Ret, DK, SP, Lock can do and I don’t even have that Wow factor on ELE burst anymore.
Ele is weak this season, it’s not being played at all as it hasn’t scaled well as we dont have real potency conduits compared to others and primordial wave burst was heavily nerfed with lavaburst nerf. Edit: This is the kicker ELE needs a huge rework on potency conduits as we have been left in the dust with these other broken covenant abilities and conduits that scale infinitely (divine toll, infernal cascade, etc.) Give us something to scale with Blizz as we are sitting ducks in pvp, a root, a new survivability tool, anything.
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Try double ele Rsham.
Make sure you all 3 use the earth elemental legendary!
Very fun and powerful comp!
Yeah I have a ret alt and it is actually insane how much better their potency conduits are.
Ringing clarity: Divine Toll has a 76.0% chance to cast up to 3 extra times on the main target. This is a net 225% buff to divine toll. The shaman potency conduit is a 30% chance to not consume a stack, what a joke.
Templars vindication : Templar’s Verdict has a 57.0% chance to strike again for 30% of its damage. This is the equivalent of 20% mastery.
Shielding words : Casting Word of Glory grants you a shield that prevents damage equal to 28.5% of the healing done by Word of Glory. Lasts 10 sec. Ret instant cast offheals > ele casted heals . And if you get kicked on nature your class becomes useless - you can’t shear , purge, ground, or burst.
Then we have classes like warrior that get to remove 30 seconds from die by the sword. Can you imagine if we had that for astral shift?
eh nah ele is A tier prob
is it as consistent as SP? no
is it really close? yeah
the spec has to be played as a support dps, you exist almost exclusively to give breathing room to your teammates AND DO BIG DAM
playing L$D? you exist to help settup lock bolts/full dots and be as disruptive as possible/defend healer and bait dps on you so lock can do max dam
playing thunder? youre bait for the war to play the game and there to protect your healer and lasso the kill on crosses
the spec is fine
this is true tho, spec doesnt scale well with stats and our conduits are (with the exception of the fire ele 1) completely worthless
kinda weird that there isnt a conduit that makes lavaburst apply a dot for x% of the damage it dealt or something or lavaburst has an x% increased chance to overload or even a flameshock has an x% chance to flareup causing it to tick for 150% increased damage
the ones we have are incredibly lame
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