Title says it all for pvp sub rogue qhsts best covenant
atm its looking like Nightfae and the 3rd soulbind Korayn.
Doesnt exist, they change so much from day to day that you should honestly pick what one you like. Picking the BiS could mean that its the first to get nerfed to oblivion.
Dont count your chicks before they hatch
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This goes for literally everything.
Blizzard is fickle at best and everything from covenants, legendaries down to the race/class/spec you choose could change.
Everyone is gambling going in. may luck be on our side
My thought process is literally
âalways bet on redâ
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rogueâs were too op so they nerfed their coves into the ground, and now the public reaction to getting yoinked by trinkets is going to get sub mega nerfed before shadowlands. literally going to be the worst class.
why would you even play this dumpster spec after the removal of âno fall damageâ.
3/3 specs can still avoid fall damage completely, 1/3 guaranteed granted cdâs arenât wasted.
Legionâs Improved safe fall was just for slow/careless people.
Nightfae is just a bonus stealth ability every minute and a half right? Wouldnât kyrian and a 7 point finisher for 3 combo points and a mastery buff be significantly better for a setup class?
Also the added survivability with vialâŚ
Iâm psure as cool and niche as night fae could be, itâs gunna be garbage once people realize how to counter it.
Ez hunt flare or aoe on rogue on duration expiration, or just dispel it.
I think kyrian is the one with the increased versa/mastery thing so that alone puts it above since sub is benighted greatly by those stats. Even if ER is nerfed which due to its rng i donât think it will be.
Pretty sure it just lets you use 1 ability from stealth. It doesnât actually stealth you. I donât think hunter flare would get rid of it but I havenât tested it.
The dispel is a hard counter
Right I was thinking the same thing but it being quite powerful for the human rogue meta for planned kidney>sap or whatever you use it for when you donât have dance or donât want to commit a dance to it.
has it been changed recently? It was a proper vanish the last time I tested it. So far as it even interacted with Vanish related legendaries.
Edit: RIP there goes my beautiful vanish plans. Its been nerfed lmao.
So isnât this like. blatantly useless now?
I canât see there being any practical use for ambush in pve? Like oh wow one free ambush every minute thirty, unless it interacts with garrote and subterfuge for assassination, so that would be free garrote silences / increased damage from subterfuge talent.
Like⌠This is just so blatantly a PvP function. Access to stealth abilities while in combat. That means either Ambush, Cheap shot, or Sap. (Garrote silence, PIck Pocket,)
??? whatâs the purpose of this covenant if itâs not actual vanish. Vanish interacted with legendaries, and had function. If itâs PVE, itâs a 1.5 minute cd for a full-energy-cost ambush or garrote. ?? what kind of âŚ
So that makes me think itâs for PvP, since it even has CDR built in for when itâs ânot lasting full durationâ so dispelled.
But then itâs just lackluster?
iâm frustrated by this lmao.
What are the conduits for it?
None I heard Rogue is really bad in Shadowlands. Should try and pick up something elseâŚ
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rogue is meta class in shadowlands wtf u means lmao
Kyrian - Pelagos
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