Best class/spec for terrible PvPer to "git gud"

TL;DR: What class/specs might be more simple for a terrible PvP player to learn gooder via school of hard knocks?

I have, since the birth my first ever Toon back in WotLK, been absolutely awful at PvP. The amount of shame and dishonor I have brought to my ancestors…well, suffice to say the “mysterious” calamities befalling the world might actually be the gods’ wrath for the display I put forth.

I’ve always been self conscious of this, and I’ve decided enough is enough. So I ask for guidance. I know there is no choice that will make me a good fighter. I ask only what class/specs might make that journey easier. So I will summarize the guidance I’m looking for. As above, so below:

What class/specs might be more simple for a terrible PvP player to learn gooder via school of hard knocks?

I’m no pvper by any stretch of the imagination

What little I have dabbled in PvP I personally found melee to be more forgiving than ranged

Perhaps maybe a warrior or a monk?

Both easy to grasp but can pull off some 500Iq moves at a higher skill ceiling

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I’ll vote for fury warrior.

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any kinda elf/healer

healer egirls get carried all the time.

Jokes aside, screw meta. You really need to find out what class you enjoy the most and go from there (if you don’t already?) I know a multi glad who does okay on one spec/class but shines with the other because they enjoy it and are intimately familiar with it. Play what you enjoy.

From there I’d suggest watching some gud peeps on YT who play your class/spec… unless you’re mw monk this season… should be a feature of strength playing one periodt.

I’m a scrub but hope that gives a wee bit of guidance…

BM hunter, havoc, and frost dk.

Incredibly easy classes to play while you learn pvp. A little step up in difficulty would be arms war.

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Ret Paladin. It’s not a hard class to pick up I wouldn’t think and you can smash people in like 1 second with your cds.

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Yeah not sure how anyone hasn’t said Ret paladin more

They are like a noob stomp class

You’ll pretty much automatically become better than 50% of the PvP population

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You sound like me. My first experience of PvP was gank-fests leveling as alliance on Jaedenar, a horribly horde dominated pvp server in late BC. When my friends and I started, they picked a server at random, not knowing the difference any of that made. We’re talking stupifying levels of gank-tarded, like three 60’s camping your level 23 for more than an hour. How can anyone be THAT bored? Then, in came the DK, and they didn’t just camp you, they camped your entire quest hub keeping all NPC’s dead for hours at a time.

This soured me to the very existence of PvP, so much so, that even contemplating voluntarily engaging in PvP felt like a morally deficient behavior. Eventually, I paid to move 9 characters to a non-pvp server, forcing my friends to follow or live with the fact we wouldn’t be able to play together. Jaedenar overall population was in a terrible place by that point, and since it was 90% horde, the alliance side was BAD, so the move was good, regardless of PvP.

However, I softened on my objections to PvP, and have dabbled some in most expansions, including Wrath. Like you, I’m bad at it, largely due to a serious lack of experience with it. Here are my very amateur observations:

Some classes are always respectable:
Mage
Warlock
Rogue
Priest
Honorable mentions: Warrior
I’ve heard WW Monk always does well in 1 v 1 tournaments, but, isn’t always good in teams.

However, of those, the only ones I’ve had any success with in my limited dabbling is warrior. The skill floor, meaning the minimum skill necessary to be average or a little above, seems a little higher on those. Most are a little squishy unless you start to get better with more advanced escape and hit and run tactics.

The classes I’ve had the most luck with a low skill level:
Warrior
Resto Shaman

I’ve probably played more paladin PvP than anything, largely because it’s been my main and so I know it best. Most of the time, it hasn’t felt good. Right now, however, it is in a pretty good spot and would be a good class to play. Having said that, my experience is that paladin never gets to stay strong for long except for Holy. With a patch coming sooner rather than later and starting so late in the season, you MIGHT be playing catch up, only to get a nerf bat to the groin before you actually get caught up.

The rest all seem to have their day in the sun, and their days in the dark. I think the previous suggestions of a melee are good, and I would add that healers with lower cast times can be played to a fun level without a ton of skill, too. Resto shaman, druid and disc priest. You will have to get good at avoiding getting kicked and escaping from getting focused to heal, but, that’s actually true of anything sometimes…except ret pally when it’s bad. Man, the times when ret was bad, and the class has no mobility, you would practically get either immediately deleted or ignored for last since you were just rolling around in your wheelchair.

Well I play one of everything. I enjoy all classes, but not all specs. I know a lot of it depends on what I enjoy, but a lot of it also depends and the toolkit you’re given to start with too. For example, I love playing my Fury Warrior but the thought of entering the fight with a single interrupt and no heal unless BR is procced…yikes. Some spec lend themselves a bit more to PvP I feel.

I’ve seen a lot of them, thought I might give em a try. This makes me consider them more strongly. I do have two at level cap.

My start in PvP was trial by fire on Malorne with something like a 80/20 spit not in the favor of the Alliance which I was playing at the time. Every quest felt like I was a PoW walking a minefield, never sure which step was the last.

Certainly keeps you on your toes. I have gotten exceptionally good at running away. Masterful even. I think I even invented the bubble hearth. That or it was invented for me xD

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Ret pally.
Arms warrior
Boomkin.
Enh shaman.
Havoc DH.
Bm Hunter.
Frost DK.

Easiest specs to play and do well with.

do paladin

Balance druid Night Fae.
Stealth over, stun someone, when they break it with trinket stun them again and convoke.

If their quite bad it works 100% of the time, even though every class has a hard counter to it in some way.
If not… well… it won’t.

But if the forums are anything to judge it by (lol) it’s the most powerful thing to ever exist ever and it’s a guaranteed win 100% of the time when it impossibly drops 3 full moons on them in 1 second with a dozen starsurges.

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I hear you. I know I didn’t say the easiest class(es) to play but I still stand by - more than meta, easiest to play, you gotta love the class/spec you’re gonna play mostest (imo) :woman_shrugging: :kissing_heart:

Druid was my other strong choice. Boomkin with its phases has always tripped me up though, and it’ll definitely be a learning curve. Its a class that takes forethought, something I historically lack haha.

This is true. I would amend that to its also a good idea to play classes you don’t enjoy, even if briefly and just for perspective. I have one of each class on both sides, all with unique races (no repeats). It’s helped ,a lot, and it is the reason I now want to branch out more from than just different specs but also into PvP from PvE. My fury warrior isn’t going anywhere, and will still be my main. But I’d also like a purpose built PvP character.

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Definitely gotta go with Ret Paladin. You’ll have a much easier time winning and learning the ropes of PvP with a Ret Paladin.

All kidding aside.
It’s really hard to go wrong with a paladin right now, at least for RIGHT NOW.

Things are going to change a LOT in 9.1 with the new talents and such opening new comps and strategies… so I would say you might want to hold off from making a decision until there’s a new meta.

Like… Take feral for example. It has certain comps it’s great in. In 9.1 it’s getting a mortal strike effect and LOTP will work with casters, so it’s going to open up a lot of new options, and those options might hard-counter something in the established meta now.

I’d say “just play what you like the most” but sadly that’s terrible advice.

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This is true more than ever, I guess :pleading_face: PvP is awful this xpac…

still stubborn Play what you want…

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That advice makes sense. Holding of in the middle of this patch to wait for the next would give me more time to familiarize myself with the content, as my PvP experience is strictly limited to getting absolutely bodied while questing and also a few bgs years back.

I will I swear! I play literally everything twice, trust me the stuff I like is in there or I’d lose my mind leveling and playing 24 characters.

Frost DK if you want something straight forward and not super complicated.
Probably not going to be the best “school of hard knocks” kind of teacher though.
For me that would be something like Frost/Fire Mage. Something that is really punishing if you don’t play it well so that it forces you to learn how to be better.

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I said school of hard knocks, not school of crushed self esteem. I already live in the latter.

Seriously though, thank you. It’s appreciated. I’ll keep it in mind.

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