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I just looked this up and it is hilarious
You do know that normal is supposed to be skipped if you can, right? Heroic is the regular raid, normal is the easy “friends and family” raid if your particular group can’t handle the regular raid but still want to raid nonetheless. LFR is for people who can’t and won’t raid but still want to do the content.
Benthic was a good idea and a good way of handling catchup gear imo. The issue is more to the point that it should only be gear that benefits the users as World Quest gear and gearing fodder for alts. It shouldn’t be a BIS for any raider.
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I can get on board with its usefulness being restricted to open world.
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if you don’t do hard content you dont need the best gear. i say that as someone who used to do top end content and no longer does, and directly benefits from “welfare” gear.
more participation trophy crowd posts… jesus
The thing is that it’s no longer catchup gear, it’s just another gearing method that is unfortunaly described more as wellfare gear for no better word. Catchup gear was gear of a tier lower. So if you needed 400 ilvl to enter the new raid, the catchup gear would give you that, not give you ilvl better than the raid.
it’s what 350 manapearls to get azerite you can get in a half of week of M+
There was just nothing to fear from benthic, none of my characters used them for longer than a week or two before they were all completely replaced.
Unless I’m wrong, I don’t think the ilvl of benthic gear is an issue. It’s that it’s better than things that drop in a raid (which is supposed to be the pinnacle of pve content). Also, the randomness of the affixes and sockets. If someone spends more time obtaining something and doing more difficult content, it’s only common sense that said content should yield better rewards.
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There’s nothing wrong with alternative (and, for balancing purposes, less efficient) gearing methods.
Alternative implies you’re doing it instead of. Alternative also implies “on par” and not “superior”.
Wow doesn’t offer alternative routes. It offers crap on top of crap that you have to do if you want to keep up the pace with other people who also do crap on top of crap, a’la honor grind.
I’m not interested in nolyfing. I’m interested in flexing skill and getting the best stuff via that, like old pvp gear (hello 2200 shoulders) and old raids. Just. Git. Gud.
This was never about the Benthic azerite. That was almost universally useless.
Four of the pieces have bonus effects that are obscenely powerful and outperform Titanforged Mythic raid gear when maxed out. The crit boots outperform Mythic raid gear out of the box at 385, and potentially flip your stat weights upside-down to boot. Factor in that sockets are hideously powerful right now (almost all DPS specs in the game prefer secondaries over primary 2:1), and it’s not uncommon to see socketed benthic outperform a good bit of other Mythic raid gear on key stats alone.
Honestly the problems could’ve all been avoided by only letting the bonus procs happen in overworld, and prohibiting socket rolls like literally every other vendor piece in the game.
There’s nothing less efficient about it. Most people hitting Mythic Palace had all the relevant pieces before the door opened, as a preparatory step. I did, and I only had one alt to funnel tokens from.
Had to laugh at that one.
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The funny part about this is non-raiders saying it’s a good thing benthic performs as well as it does without understanding that it only outperforms raid gear in raid.
Raid level gear is better in world and dungeon content than benthic gear (which is world content gear). Benthic gear up to 40 ilvls lower is better in raid content than raid/dungeon gear (which is raid/dungeon content gear)
No, that does not make sense and non-raiders defending it is really ironic. Yes, people who do raid content can be upset about that.
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Are non raiders using this stuff in raids and bumping the hardcore raiders?
No, but that means absolutely nothing in regards to people being unhappy about the current gear progression. Believe it or not, it has absolutely nothing to do with players like you
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It seems like they’re upset about nothing.
That’s because you don’t raid, so you don’t understand how it feels to have a bunch of useless 445/450/455 pieces because of a 415 piece you got from plugging geysers. If plugging geysers is your end game content, how could you understand?
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