Being level 59 now vs. if we had static pvp sets

I think a great way to illustrate how awful it is right now for pvp gearing is imagining yourself on a lvl 59 alt.

Right now: I can either keep my alt at 59 and actually just play on a level playing field, obviously casual play, but it’s a great way to learn your class and get better. The minute I got 60? I have weeks (at least) ahead of me of being instantly decimated just to get the CONQUEST to buy 200 ilevel (lol) pieces. Now I have to again spend weeks getting turned out in order to push and upgrade those. Let’s say I’m a gamer and I achieve rating, then I need to farm honor to upgrade. ALLL WHILE I also need to farm torghast weekly which I am also behind on. My bis legendary is in a torghast floor not up or a world boss? Enjoy waiting longer.

With static sets: save up honor while leveling so you have a good chunk of the honor set at 60. Play some bgs or whatever get full set. Get turned out for like a week until you have the conquest set. Congrats you are now able to pvp.

This is a no brainer, and the system in place is completely indefensible. #STATICSETSNOW

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From what I understand the optimal gearing path is:

  • Honor Cap
  • Fresh 60
    ** Buy Honor rings/trinkets/necklace
  • Upgrade to 184
  • Immediately complete cov. campaign for 170+ set of gear
  • Get a Torg. carry for Lego
  • Run mythics/WQ and use anima to upgrade cov. set
  • Spam RBGs
  • Buy/upgrade Conq. pieces

Congrats, now you can play the game.


Just the thought of all this makes me want to take a nice trip up the road on my wrists.

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You missed a step between these two where you queue for and hide (surf the zerg) in Epic BGs so people in randoms don’t complain about your gear score while still getting some honor/conquest.

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hate to be a toxic member of the community but it’s really hard to care when blizzard’s gear system is so toxic
but people underutilize afking in epic bgs

in every epic bg there’s several ‘defending’ locations that wont tag you as afk for not doing anything

you can really get 600-800 honor for running into a wall alt tabbed

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I’ve been really enjoying messing with my combat rogue and feels like I’m learning a lot about setting up with it and making plays. Will sit 59 as long as I can so I can #PLAYTHEGAME :crossed_fingers:

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Not sure if it’s the same for horde but low cr alliance rbgs are literally Stephen Hawking marathons and if the lead asks for a modicum amount of exp you sit for around for 40 minutes waiting for it to fill until you decide it’s better to just alt f4.

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ya unless I can get the boys together I elect to just do something else with my time

why would you go to lvl 59? vs staying lvl 50, you have more stats at lvl 50 with bis gear than a lvl 59 with quest greens. shoot some of the bis bfa items are better than 170s blues.

hem in any case. this late in the season you can just do your full covenant campaign get basically a full set of 197 gear then grind out some 0 cr Rated BGs. you will cap honor faster than you can spend it. :thinking:
just grind out the conquest set and then start pushing rating when you get past the first break point.

and static sets is basically asking for the live game to be a tournament realm where you get everything handed to you.

closest thing was legion templates. worst system to ever exist imo not choice in what stats you had so gear didn’t matter. people literally doing about the same effectiveness with nothing on literally no gear on the character and maybe some white weapon.

the balance was if you got lucky and had good stats or not in your template.

so i do not agree that a full set of anything is beneficial. it eliminates all character progression. which if this was something like overwatch then maybe it could work but this is a mmorpg, character progression is part of the fun.

stop crying about gearing my god!

would you be happy if every fresh 120 was boom max ilvl?

then what’s the point in playing wow? like seriously you kids are annoying!

this is so narrow minded it’s insane
nobody is asking for anything to be given out for free

if you don’t understand what’s wrong with the current gearing system it’s because you’re not good enough at the game to take part in the conversation

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your all on here crying 24/7 about gearing through pvp.

like what idiot thinks they should play wow and only pvp and have the best gear?

and you all keep crying that gear takes too long. so would you be happy to just instantly have max ilvl gear?

like what else is there to do in this game? you literally sit in LFG for hours looking for people to que with.

itleast i can farm while i wait.

in pvp? anyone with a brain

gearing shouldn’t be rating locked

it’s extremely detrimental to the game to have players go up 10 overall ilvl every 200 cr

this is not a relevant argument against people having a problem with the current gearing system

what are you even talking about

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Kinda

I have a lock/dh/rogue all at ~205 ilvl each i dont bother playing because I rarely fight ppl as terrible as I anymore :joy:

Ya it would be cool to just play a competitive game mode without extra barriers to entry

“Hey bro you should get into WoW PvP with me heads up though you have to do a million things entirely unrelated to the content that you want to do, then do the content you want with a massive disadvantage and no gear whatsoever until you can finally start learning the game”

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Lots of BIZZARE peasant mindset in this thread. People who have never been above 1550 arguing IN FAVOR of gear based on rating lol.

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Could do cov campaign for 197 pieces, but you need a healthy renown level to finish the campaign, but being at 200 is a healthy ilvl to push 1400 without a bud in comparison to 170-180.

Instead of running mythics (wqs never offered me gear upgrades on any of my characters at any point of the game), you can just jump into 2s/3s/rbgs and let your w/l ratio go to the super negatives, it’s not the ideal approach and I’m starting to ragequit it on my second priest (will link), but my shaman who now has 0 honor is about 1600 and I can’t stand playing him anymore lmao.

but ye you can attempt to play the game til you’re like full combatant or challenger upgraded gear which is not fun.

Linked my priest pvp thing just to show how bad the initial steps can take

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/magtheridon/mundos/pvp

16kish+ mortalstrike from 50% to 0%

https://imgur.com/a/7RUhMdw

im the idiot? you want to play a mmo to just do arena’s? like what? go play a fighting game or fortnite or something.

the whole point of a mmorpg is to progress your character. i enjoy logging in and having something to do.

get a life kid, you live on the forums and play wow 24/7 go outside get some food or get a gf or something LUL.

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Yes we want to play the game to play arena. Hope that answers your question. Later man!

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then play arena?

if you just want max ilvl gear then i suggest you guys request for them to keep the tourney realms up for you guys to play in then.

but for the rest of us normal people we like to progress and out characters and use that progression to stomp out kids who think they should get bis gear from just pvp.

like the whole point of wow pvp is to out gear kids and stomp them out untill next season, this isn’t a real esport game and i doubt it will ever be.

what 10char

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