Beginner Pandaren RP questions

I have checked the posted Rp Compendium, - many thanks for compiling and updating it! Anyway, I have a Pandaren that I’ve been working on that I’m wanting to RP, and I have some questions.

Is there an accepted consensus on some general things like age, height and weight. I generally go vague, but I’d like to know the specifics of what I’m being vague about.

And I assume that the only way one would “retire” from the Shao-pan would be death. But washing-out of training to become one would be acceptable, maybe? Just getting some ideas here.

I’m spent my RP years here being 99% Tauren-centric. So this is pushing me way out of my comfort zone. I’d appreciate any advice anyone would like to give.

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There is one instance of a named NPC who is retired from the Shado-Pan but his name escapes me.

That being said, if they were injured enough I’d imagine they could retire. As to washing out…I was under the impression washing out meant dying but I could be wrong there.

Hopefully one of the more knowledgeable has better answers for you.

Yes, retired Shado-Pan exists. They’re mentioned in a quest in Krasarang Wilds where they talk about trainers being “adventurers, Tian Monastery monks, or retired Shado-Pan”. So you can retire and not die.

After all, I think unless you’re extremely dedicated to the cause you’re allowed to retire if you’re too old to train/keep up the pace and you did years of service, or if you got heavily injured.

Also, as far as height and weight goes, I don’t think there’s any real clear set rule. It’s WoW, so you can probably RP however you want as long as it’s “realistic”. Pandaren have a similar life span to humans but they live a little bit longer (thinking 130’s is considered super elderly) but otherwise yeah.

But the true question is: did you roll it Horde or Alliance? This is key lore as it involves whether or not your Pandaren hates itself.

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But the true question is: did you roll it Horde or Alliance? This is key lore as it involves whether or not your Pandaren hates itself.

LOL! He is Horde. He doesn’t seem to hate himself, so far. Though he has been doing the Rare grind in Icecrown. So I think he hates me by now.

As far as I’ve gotten with him is that he is late middle age. Claims to be just a scribe and a former librarian, and enjoys listening to stories and writing them down. Of course, there are those scars on his face that damaged his eye sight and the fact he doesn’t talk about his past. But that could be anything.

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He was attacked by a treatise on Mogu tax evasion in the rare books section.

Pandaren libraries can be very dangerous, what with how the stories tend to come to life.

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Be very wary of anyone giving you a definitive locked-down set-in-stone answer for questions such as yours, Kinarra. Acceptable bounds of lore cannot be summed up in 255 characters or less. A deeper reading of primary evidence (what authorized Blizzard reps have said everywhere, not just tweeted) makes very clear that we are to take all lore sources as coming from - to some extent at least - unreliable narrators. Meaning it’s told from a particular point of view, not from an all-seeing all-knowing scientifically exact source.

There’s a huge difference between the norm and the limits. There’s canonical (in approved stories and novels) evidence that some Pandaren may be far older than a typical human lifespan. From ingame evidence I’m aware of at least 6 different ways a particular Pandaren could be far older than the human norm. OTOH, you asked what those of us who are experienced Pandaren players do for RP purposes …

I’ve personally interacted with every kind of player character Pandaren from cubs to ancients, skinny (for a Pandaren) to obese (for a Pandaren), from not as tall as an average human to needing to stoop to fit through a Pandaren door. Never run across a description on any of those spectra that seemed too weird to be outside my RP interaction comfort zone.

Most Pandaren players I come across define their characters’ ages descriptively (young, middle-aged, elder, …) and leave it at that. A Pandaren going through puberty and an Elf on the cusp of adulthood have a lot more in common than knowing how many days they’ve marked off on the calendar would lead you to believe. Life-experience as a measure of age varies as well. There’s a popular cub who is at least as adventurous as Li Li. I’ve also met (IC) more than one farmer of mature age who’s never been further than a day’s walk from home. Similarly for weight. I have a better sense of what a skinny Pandaren would look like than one weighing 4,832 ounces.

Shado-Pan are about the closest thing Pandaren have to an organized military. It’s not unreasonable to assume that they have standards and regulations analogous to rl military. Then there’s the spiritial aspect - they’re a monastic order. You have to weigh that against the general Pandaren social structure - based on ingame evidence it’s pretty much voluntary associations with the organized groups and the groups themselves don’t have an overarching hierarchy. So ask yourself, could a Pandaren leave an elite martial monastic order “by mutual agreement”? Sure. Would they walk into a tavern of strangers and announce their resume, handing out copies of their CV ? Not likely.

I’d suggest doing what a lot of us do with new characters. Start with plenty of things about your character loosely defined, maybe even unstated. Even after several years of playing Kunbo daily (and immersively for about 70% of the time) I’m still finding out things about him. He started off pretty skinny for a Pandaren because with his style of bustling around he burned way more calories than average. He’s put on some weight since he’s gone from front line combat to running an import/export business from home, owns a teahouse with a rotating menu he has to create and get good enough at cooking to share publicly, and has a girlfriend who loves his cooking.

All that affects not just his weight, but has also gradually defined my perception of his age & how I play it out. Once I would have been no more specific than “in his prime”. Nowadays he’s mature enough to prefer sitting on the porch with the old dogs rather than running around with the barking puppies. So I’d describe him as “still going strong but not as young as he used to be”.

Giving yourself room to develop your character applies to the military background as well. Consider the difference in RP possibilities between

I got kicked out of the Shado-Pan because I couldn’t do enough push-ups

versus

I used to be part of an elite military unit you’ve probably never heard of, but we parted ways “for reasons”.

In the Pandaren RP community on this server not everyone using the Shado-Pan headgear as part of their IC mog is a Shado-Pan, and not every Shado-Pan wears a recognizable military uniform.

Don’t worry so much about it. Pandaholic lore-yers seem to be a lot rarer than with other species of RPers. Come hang out with us at places like the teahouse, the public celebrations run by various Pandaren (player-created) organizations, or even just groups at us you see at events. I think most of my P&P walkups have started with “do you know a good place to eat?”. Best and most important part of any TRP profile - imho - is the At First Glance. We really only need to read what someone who saw your character on the street and struck up a conversation would know about them. Figure the details of your character out amongst us rather than before you meet us.

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Thank you Kunbo. Most of what I’ve done for him, and it’s not much, is pretty vague. I usually start a character with a lot of different ideas in mind, and then let the character develop organically and see where it wants to go. I fret more about things than I should. Because you really don’t need to have everything all detailed out to start RPing.

I am a cowboy Pandaren. I have been a Cowboy Pandaren for years. I speak with a notable accent IC, and no one has stopped me. Pandaren are, in my opinion about having fun. You’re the guy that pals around with everyone, and kicks butt when you need to but can offer some pretty safe advice if needed.

Alternatively you can just go full bear and start catching fish out of the nearest river with your mouth. No one will be able to stop you, they’ll be too scared.

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looks at Bandalur with concern

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Bandalur is living his best life. If you’re too much of a coward to root through the trash and eat raw salmon fresh from the stream, that’s your problem.

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sounds like Bandalur should meet my old druid. She a feral and sometimes like to over winter with a family bears.

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I love her already.

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https://www.wowhead.com/faction=1276/old-hillpaw

Old Hillpaw was a quiet, somewhat grumpy Pandaren who liked chickens. Over time, you can find out that at some point in his mysterious past he lost his wife and son.

In a post-MoP short story where the Halfhill residents came under attack by Kor’kron loyalist Dark Shaman, the farmers teamed up to take them down. Old Hillpaw, however, goes off on his own. While most farmers manage to double team each Shaman to take them down one by one, Old Hillpaw mysteriously kills two or three by himself.

It’s either implied or revealed that he was former Shado-Pan.

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Ingame there’s this text from the Huck Wheelbarrow quest (emphasis added):

Usually our trainees are adventurers like yourself, or monks from Tian Monastery, or occasionally retired Shado-Pan.

I’d say if it happens often enough for it to be mentioned as a typical Red Crane trainee - and why would a full-career veteran Shado-Pan need more training anyway - then you’re good to go for a Shado-Pan who took an “early retirement” :wink:

Excellent! Class-wise, the character is a warrior. And while I don’t believe that a character’s class has to make a difference to how they are RPed, I wanted to keep some of that air of “bruh, I’ve seen some things” that a military career could provide.