I think this is my favorite class to play and my favorite healer to play. I enjoy the uniqueness of it’s healing patterns. My biggest issue isn’t even the range limitation although it is very bad, especially when you base the mastery of a DPS class around being very far away. My biggest issue is that I have 2 functional abilities to save my teammates in M+ and in raid and both of them get me killed over 50% of the time.
I’m constantly being put into a position where I have to save bad players when I pug M+. For example on the 2nd boss of Rookery, I’ve had to verdant embrace to save someone who was about to die to the aoe slam damage because they didn’t use a defensive for the dot that they took. This forced me to verdant embrace right before the slam went off which got me killed. In this same dungeon, I had a hunter sitting max range the entire time, he was standing directly ontop of two puddles near the last boss that would’ve killed him if they went off. The puddles were from the big crystal mob that does the pulsing aoe at 40%. I went to rescue him and he disengaged backwards right as I did it which made me fly twice as far, right over the puddle that exploded and killed me. I got blamed both times I had died, when in reality it was due to me trying to save people from their own mistakes. Verdant embrace and Rescue need an iframe.
You gotta be prepared with an echo for verdant embracing people unfortunately. Most other times it’ll get you killed
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In the first Case…Unfortunately It was a poor decision on your part to VE him. Echo and VE yourself. That’s pretty much Bread and Butter. If you are going to VE someone directly gotta make sure everything is clear or you are just rolling the dice.
The Second…Honestly I dislike Rescue, outside of Trolling people. Selecting the Person, then Selecting the Location is just annoying. You have other options, Blaze…TD…but Ultimately in that case its the DPS’s responsibility to not take Avoidable Damage. Loosing a Healer is worse then loosing a DPS if the Boss isn’t almost Dead.
Yeah but the problem is that in higher keys I’m using rescue on CD for the absorb. The other day I had it completely bug out and stun me on the brawl clouds in Cinderbrew except my character wasn’t in a cloud and walked into a wall and I couldn’t control my character at all and then I died. I know it’s not ideal to VE but there are cases where people take damage and I have no echo and I need to VE and I do pay attention when I use it. The problem is the person on the receiving end can dictate my VE by suddenly moving. This has gotten me killed countless times. There needs to be either iframes or a significant damage reduction for a split second when using it only in PvE. There should 1000% be iframes on rescue. At this point the spell should be renamed to attempt to rescue because it doesn’t work half the time. It either bugs out or gets you killed and sometimes both people killed. It’s honestly a bit of a joke.
My biggest issue with pres is setting up a combo in prep for the group wide damage about to hit everyone, then someone stands in something and needs healing now.
so I either time dilation them and cross my fingers they survive the group hit or I blow my combo to heal one person and start prepping another combo that’ll leave me behind.
Personally, I hope they rework emerald blossom to be a spot heal that’s off the echo list then you can have a essence consuming heal you can play with while sitting on a echo combo.
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You don’t have keystone legend, so I don’t think you’re doing higher keys.
Or just use other abilities.
He also claims to be one of the highest rated BDK’s but doesn’t know how to pull groups… I would ignore him for your own sake.
I think this is the core problem with pres is that you can wreck your ramp due to urgent spot healing, coupled with the fact that the output is tied directly to having echo’d heals which require said ramp to have enough power. This feeling of erasing all your set up echoes and then being so far behind is awful and no other healing spec has this punishing of a system. There needs to be a way for pres to spot heal and not erase echoes or this spec will always have significant problems.
I played pres heavily since S2 of DF and then switched to Rdruid this season and it is night and day. Imagine having all rejuvs and wild growth erased because you pressed regrowth one time lmao.
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Until you actually do difficult content, you can just spam blossoms.
You don’t need to actually heal until way later.
Many people aren’t remotely in actual content. They’re stuck in the not pushing abilities at all phase.
Didn’t like managing ramp in m+ so I spammed blossom.
They did this already lol.
Its delay and ground target let it down as a spot heal.
Just add in a choice node that lets me place the blossom on the player instead of the ground and condense the heal onto that one player instead of 3/5.
The other talents where seeds can bounce around and proc more blossoms could still work, it would just make more single target heals instead of the ground target heals.
Wow don’t contribute too much now.
You’re against adding player choice that doesn’t effect the current talents in anyway.
It’s not player choice though. It’s completely changing what Emerald Blossom is.
“A choice node” is not player choice?
No, it isn’t.
It makes as much sense as making emerald blossom and reversion a choice node.
It would obviously be a choice node related to emerald blossom.
Like bountiful bloom, heals 2 more or becomes single target.
Fundamentally changes what the spell is about.
Against it. And the only reason you want is for an echo exempt spell (which is arbitrary.) Evoker doesn’t need more obscure interactions.
Argumentative for fun I see. 
Enjoy your day.
This is exactly what I’m saying. Thats why I think Pres will never be viable in pug m+. If someone makes a mistake right before the aoe mechanic and all your echos are out and they expect you to heal them back to full in that 0.5-1 second window then it’s GG.
They should make a talent for emerald blossom to be used as a non eating echo ST ability that can spot heal. That is what we desparately need.
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