If we’re not allowed to make funnies in obvious troll threads with hundreds of replies, then this isn’t a forum I want to be in.
Its hard to tell who is heing sarcastic anf who isbt
Sorry, I’m a big fan of British humor.
Every single post I can find on the old forums made in the WoD era about clipping issues, are talking about the new models. This is the only post I could find that shows you claiming to have posted proof: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769728236?page=8#post-142
Doesn’t show me acknowledging anything, nor does it show any proof of the old model toggle not functioning properly. All I can find is you claiming that “every attempt to repair the old models and animations damaged them further.”
The more you troll the easier you make it for us. Please continue sir. 
Here is where people stop listening to anything you say. You want to actually change the classes now, which isn’t a minor change like you said in your original post.
Yes, we are completely okay with ret paladins being trash for dps. Why? Because that is was it was like in Vanilla. That is how the game worked back then. That is what we, the Classic community, wants. An experience that is authentic as possible to that wonderful time all those years ago.
Unchanged as possible, but really changing the entire game. Yeah, hope you aren’t expecting any sort of credibility around here.
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I don’t think it would be hard to make a list of crucial characteristics for Vanilla servers, something like:
- Community feel
- Gear/items being rightfully EARNED
- Leveling takes time and feels like an adventure
- Large world with long travel times
- Each class plays a specific role
And I’m sure there are a few more fundamental characteristics to Vanilla.
Im curious as to how Arena ruins anything… I’ll play vanilla no matter what but that is the one change I’d really like to see even if the only reward was a title. I get how things like lfg, flying etc ruin social aspects and adventure respectively but how does Arena do anything other than add to classic? Other than fear of Pandora’s box. (I get that part of it)
This is not what we were promised, this is not what we’re going to get. You need to stop thinking that Blizzard is going to do anything to “fix” these problems.
They already did it once. It’s called Retail. This one is a museum recreation “warts and all”.
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If it has no gear tied to it then it wouldn’t hurt anything. The problem is Blizzard would want to do that, which now changes several things.
Just throwing my 2 cents in. OSRS made a major change with that polling thing, and that was adding in the GE. I quit, and never looked back. If Blizzard allows users to vote for changes, just like OSRS, the vast majority of players will effectively vote themselves back into ezmode, and take away from the hardcore audience all over again.
I don’t trust Blizzard, or the mainstream community to decide changes.
Well finally a 1 post person that understands what classic is about.
My glasses are more of a velvet colour.
But the game is balanced, Not in the sense of everyone is equal at everything. More like rock paper scissors. Unless you don’t believe that’s a balanced game?
What are we considering fair? Because that subjective.
Why not just start a new game with this feature? Classic is a museum piece, please refer to blizzcon WoW classic panel.
This example of yours has nothing to do with balance for the game or relevant to being fair. Seems like you are upset at some ones opinion on what graphics they like, again this is a museum piece. You don’t upgrade the mona lisa with new fancy colours.
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Can you paraphrase what they said about this in the panel?
Timestamp 31:20 talking about balance specifically. mentions recreating history.
EDIT: more specific quote
“Because the second we start to substitute our modern judgment to solve problems from 12 years ago, we are deviating from our goal of a historical recreation of the game as it was than making something different and that’s something we want to avoid”
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i give arena example just as example of how such situations has been resolved;
vanilla pvp ranks works in the same way;
it is not so hard to get the same amount for everyone ;
the biggest part is a reward for victory and marks which is already the same for every premade member;
shared kills are the lesser part;
then using special addon and killing a certain lvl/rank enemy with certain number of teammates gives you a certain fixed amount ;
it could be calculated easily;
such thing require a few more time to make everyone standing equal, but it is much less effort then literally dying while trying to compeate for r14 solo
yes that is how pve guild would gear its 12 warriors raid
Quite a bigoted way of thinking isn’t it? “If you don’t agree with me then get out”, is that it?
Then I guess we’ll see dozens of R14 players within the first few weeks of R14 becoming able to be reached if it is so easy.
We’ll just have to wait and see how it plays out.
Disclaimer: there have already been some minor changes, but those are clearly not what the thread is about, so…the only time I’d be open to changes, is post-naxx (minimum 6 months after.)
EVERY single retail change had the same arrogant mindset as you do here.
This isn’t Runescape, either.
This isn’t make-or-break for me, and if Blizzard chooses to add it I’ll be fine with it…but I also think visual continuity is important; we should all be seeing the same thing.
OR changes don’t happen, and if you want them you can go elsewhere.
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Bookmarked for posterity.
@title, NO.
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