BC and wotlk servers

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Hopefully not Wotlk, it’s the xpac that killed WoW.

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I thought this when BC launched, sort of. I didn’t want to move ahead yet, but I had no choice even if I didn’t buy the expansion; folks on my server were going to be getting green items better than MC+ gear, and that was that. But I wouldn’t have wanted to level a character up from 1 on a new BC server, either. An option to move your character from vanilla to BC would be good, although then you have to worry abour your friends & guildies who stay behind.

Anyhow, this is all not even speculation at this point. Who knows how things will play out?

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The only problem I see with this is the brutal grind from 1-70 I mean imagine this same proposed idea with a WotLK classic server 1-80. The grind would be extremely long.

I think a compromise can be reached to limit what a player takes with them when transferring a character to the seperate expansion classic servers. That’s how it happened in BC. People had level 60 characters and continued onto Outlands same for WotLK they had 70 characters and continued to Northrend.

To have to start from level 1 would be a turnoff for many. Transferring or a copy of your 60, 70, etc would be exactly how it was when those expansions launched in a way.

Again, I believe limitations to the copy/transfer of characters can be thought of and agreed upon when the time comes.

Edit: definitely no linking of any kind. The servers should be completely independent of each other.

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Oh and one of my first thoughts when I heard about Classic was that I wished I could resume playing my original vanilla main character, except I’d played him into TBC. I really doubt they’re going to have any kind of rollback. It’s a shame, too; I had nearly all the pets and mounts collected on that toon… :stuck_out_tongue:

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A copy would allow you to maintain your character on the Classic server while also allowing it to be on the seperate Classic expansions server.

This is why I like the copy idea.

People want limitations to the process because of abuse of the system. 100% understandable. A compromise can be reached.

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I want lich king and panda

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Only down side with copying is gold can be exploited

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Yes. If they do TBC and WOTLK servers it will require 100% non reversible transfers for sure. No copies… You either send your toon forward to the next expansion or you keep them in the current one, but not both.

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Or you’ll have a gold cap with xfer such as copy… So you can keep your toon on vanilla server and TBC…
Gold cap at 500g for an example.

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Aww man I really wanted to start in bc sucks that we prolly won’t get it at the same time as vanilla lol. I just want my alliance shaman :sweat_smile:

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You are not alone, BC was way better than vanilla.

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They will one day. Vanilla can only go on for so long.

But let’s enjoy it when it comes, deal?

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Vanilla was temporary. It didn’t last forever. It would be naive to assume that classic would. We’ll get it as long as we get it. Nothing lasts forever.

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I’m sure they will wait and see how vanilla does before doing anything further.

That being said, LK is where Blizz not only jumped the shark, but started going for big air…

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I don’t want a copy or a transfer, tbh, it’s a form of a link between the two. I don’t like transfer because I want people to come back to Classic after they’ve played around in BC or Wrath. I could get behind a limited copy (max one per server per faction, can’t copy same toon to multiple servers, that kind of thing) that could button up and limit the gold influx into the new BC or Wrath servers, and maybe a limited gold sink for the Classic servers at the same time. We don’t need to give anyone a full stable of level-60 alts to start out at launch. Alts can be ground out imo.

What about a boost? One character per server per faction boosted to some level – maybe 60, maybe a little bit lower like 50 – to get you started? Level 60 greens and blues (no purples) in every gear slot, some 14-slot bags, a fast ground mount (not a collection, just one, same one for everyone), maybe a tiny bit of gold but not much.

I get that people want to recoup whatever emotional investment they had put into their Classic toon(s), but in my mind that’s a link – almost like transmog or account-bound mounts and toyboxes.

Dunno – just my preference but I understand other people’s desires for something different, if they go this route.

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While I would prefer no transfers, I would far prefers transfers to boosts.

Every character on a BC realm was created there at level 1–ideal.

Some (non-draenei or blood elf) characters on a BC realm were transfered there at level 60 from an original-Classic-server, after leveling from 1 there–okay.

Some characters on a BC realm just skipped a bunch of levels–no.

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Agreed. I’d prefer making everyone level 1-60 rather than providing boosts.

I don’t like full-on transfers only because I want Classic there waiting for them to come back. If you allow full transfers of all toons then essentially you’re killing Classic by giving it an expansion. If they do go the transfer route, hopefully they severely limit the transfers (you can bring only one mount and up to 500g, nothing in your bank, nothing in your bags, only your empty bags and whatever you are wearing) and limit one transfer (maybe per faction) out of Classic and into BC per account. Again I don’t think they need to let the entire stable full of alts transfer (although they will probably want to make money by selling these sort of transfers, so I won’t begrudge them that if they do) and I don’t want Classic to be drained of all toons and all time /played investment, making it into a bunch of vendor trash realms that are completely abandoned. There needs to be a big anchor full of gold and gear and alts that will bring these people who left for BC back from time to time.

But yeah I appreciate your opinion of boosts, and share your preference for just making everyone grind all their first toons 1-60 for a BC server or 1-70 for a Wrath server. The Wrath server, I’m assuming, would unlock DK’s only after you’ve ground your first toon 1-55, which will make people whine and wail if they needed to grind some low level action.

But as we used to say in the navy, a whining and b1tch1ng sailor is a happy sailor. The moment they stop complaining, that’s when it’s time to start worrying.

ETA: Maybe instead of boosts they give some catch-up mechanics so people can level 1-60 much more quickly than Vanilla. Wouldn’t be true-BC, although it would be true-Wrath, to make something like heirloom gear that’s viable and dramatically reduces the 1-58 or 1-68 grind.

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Best bet, they create limit progress servers that are made to finalize each in game expansion but some still meant to eventually catch up to the other ones. Considering the time management of classic, at least 1 year before progression is the soonest we will see it. There is a lot less to convert than the full vanilla for BC and wrath has an in between content of both. So, by 2023 we should see wrath again.

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I’m still on the fence about transfers vs copies. I think copies kinda kill immersion and seem odd. It’s something that happens on the ptr of course but that’s different.
I get how transfers could negatively affect the vanilla realms. But I think without sharding they are going to have to utilize server merges and free transfers anyway even without BC servers in the mix. It’s the only way to keep the populations in healthy states.

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Transfers wouldn’t work, would kill alot of Vanilla servers. Needs to be copies but with limiting factors like gold, toons per server ect

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