Battlegrounds are dead

As of writing this there are 8 active WSGs and 8 active ABs.

You can farm honor easier every 3 hours in STV in some brainless laggy event. You can farm rep easier in PvE events. Everything this dev team has done to cater more to casuals has actually destroyed the integrity of Classic they wanted to protect.

What is the actual point of BGs now? What’s the point of gatekeeping ranks when the PvE gear is better anyways? Is the “wait and see” approach just an excuse to be lazy?

I guess time will tell in the next 3 months how these changes affect the overall pop in the game.

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Yeah, because PvP in SoD is the most unbalanced I’ve ever seen it and genuinely unfun.

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Still less than 1 minute queues for Alliance.

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why ppl will do WSG and AB if now are free rep.

Reinforces the idea that it was never about pvp.

Curious if pvp games going forwards will be more enjoyable as a result

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Fingers crossed that this phase they don’t instantly give up on class balance and leave some class absurdly op to the point it leaves pvp feeling broken and borderline unplayable for half the community…

I think the direction Blizzard is taking is very clear. They want you doing the SoD PVP events.

1K rep daily for WSG and BM token turn ins for AB are very clear indications. Most folks are going to take the path Blizzard is paving

Priests getting a bunch of curses feel broken already.

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Simple fix… just add x10 more honor/rep when you win battlegrounds…

3 min queues for solo AB for me this morning at 6am.

The REALLY sad part about this is that AV will come at 60 and i imagine they will have some other way to get the rep for that too. BGs may as well not even exist in SOD.

They should have Added to the BG experience not taken away from it. New cosmetics/mounts/gear you can ONLY get from farming rep inside of battlegrounds would have been great.

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I’m hoping they flesh out AV more, giving usa version with longer games but good honor possibly Korrak’s Revenge

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I wonder why…

Nerf shaman

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All they have to do is increase the rewards for doing BGs.

But I also don’t mind that wpvp is the best way to get rep, honor, and gear in SoD. I like it quite a lot actually.

Prepare to be disappointed friend…they have worked around every single Battleground in classic with an “event” and much easier rep…no reason to think AV will be any different.

Yeah I don’t understand this.

If they want to increase the rep, give the battlegrounds more rep?

It’s also frustrating to do the rep work in the actual BG only for them to give it away with pve crap 2 weeks later.

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I railed on about this before I let my sub lapse a month ago. Going to try p3 for novelty. SoD is just for PVE raid centric raid loggers. And they don’t want to have to deal with BGs outside of novelty. That’s why this is essentially just retail-lite. The jaded retail player base just moved here, and brought all their toxic game-killing nonsense with them. SoD hasn’t attracted any new players or classic players. All they know how to do is make retail. So that’s all they are attracting.

I see they sort of realized this by throwing the bone of some PVP gear in P3. But it’s useless gear. And they still apparently haven’t budged on unlocking rank 14 before AQ when it’s already trivialized gear at that point.

I could go on and on about this, but who cares. They are retail developers and now we have a PVP set and a PVE set. Retail. Dual spec – which is an inevitable necessity to a retail designed game. Don’t get me wrong it’s needed for SOD. They have to introduce it. Because it’s designed like retail. It’s a major hassle to not have it because of the retail design.

Anyway. OP is right. So are other thread posters I see here today. But it doesn’t matter because the developers don’t get what made classic tick. They just know how to do retail – and illustrate that almost daily on Twitter while defending their positions.

So phase 3 might be fun for a couple weeks. And then I will let my sub lapse again. They’re lucky literally no other game is interesting at the moment. Resubbing to this was the very bottom of the barrel.

Which is unfortunate because it’s such a missed opportunity. If only they just kept it at new runes and new content. But they had to go all retail on everybody.

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Tell us where the parses hurt you.

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Yeah like this guy. Why would anybody want to play with a mentality like this? It’s just game-killing. Blizzard could fix this toxic culture by simply limiting how many raid pieces you can get per week, etc. The lockout structure is what creates the problem.

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I thought it was my rugged good looks…

Classic Andy yells at Retail shapes clouds