Clockwork robots just got nerfed to not work with spirit tap, victory rush etc. Pretty funny how blizzard deemed that to be too powerful but chicken’s arent. Lets hope that blizzard actually does something before phase 3 starts.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you seem to think that utilizing broken mechanics like this to steamroll raids is hardcore, and that it’s the whiny casuals asking for them to be removed. I’d say it’s the opposite, or should be.
World buffs, chicken stacking, etc… these things nerf the raids and make them less challenging and more casual-friendly. It’s basically turning the game difficulty down to easy mode. It’s more hardcore to do the encounters without them, as intended.
You’re wrong.
Idc if you’re casual, hardcore or whatever. Play how you want to play and don’t try to interject your play style into others by force.
Want it more difficult? Take your gear off, don’t consume, do it with less players. I don’t really care how you do it. Tell your raid not to use chickens. If that’s what you enjoy then fantastic.
You want me to enjoy the game your way and I want us both to choose how we enjoy it
Nothing wrong with the chicken as is. Those that can coordinate to get 5 stacks are already meeting the dps checks and clearing content just fine. Those that arent meeting those checks have bigger problems than just getting melee group haste.
If top tier parsers want to get rid of it because its annoying to do, take it up with warcraft logs, not blizzard.
Make it give spell haste and then it’s fine in my books personally. Either make every class better with the chicken or make none better.
Chicken addicted melee love to gloss over the fact that its a lvl 45 trinket.
Let me repeat … a lvl 45 trinket is currently the strongest item in the game. Of any slot.
If you still think this is a good thing for the game, your opinion is bad.
So what if a new exploit was discovered tomorrow where certain players can increase their damage by 50%? 100%? 200%? Is there no point where you would say, “Blizzard, please fix this?” Or is it anything goes (as long as it benefits me)?
How does the saying go? If you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t tryin’?
Actually, as I’ve said before, I don’t blame the players who use it. It’s up to Blizzard to fix things like this, because I don’t think most players are capable of stopping themselves from using them. There’s too much peer pressure and competition.
The entire fact that the chicken exploit was recently discovered pretty clearly indicates its not a “completely solved game…” If it were people would have figured out how to reliably activate and stack it 16 years ago and Blizzard would have almost certainly changed it then…
You’re making the bold assumption that the activation part is actually working the same as it did back then and isn’t a bug they introduced in classic, cause that’s never happened…
No one has been able to demonstrate that isn’t the case so until proven otherwise we’ll go with occam’s razor and assume it was simply a matter of people not testing it as thoroughly in 2008
Ultimately it’s a moot point blizzard seems to not like the current situation and will be doing something about it, they just haven’t said what.
Yea sure. And I think I and others have conceded that on-demand 25% haste is probably not balanced. But it’s also not really “fair” to everyone who doesn’t run with coordinated groups consistently popping 5 chickens to nerf the trinket in general
We’ll see what they do about it, I’m guessing just not letting it stack or something.
No I would not ask blizzard to fix it I would tell Warcraft logs to invalidate people to take advantage of the exploit and allow people to do whatever they want outside regulated competition just like any sport in real life.
That seems to have worked with using KT legendaries against the other TK bosses. If WL hadn’t done that, everyone would be using them. So that option is certainly better than nothing.
Although I would say that WoW raiding is “regulated competition.” Guilds and players compete against the game, as well as against each other. That’s what PvE means. And the content is carefully tuned to provide an appropriate level of challenge. I think it’s up to Blizzard to maintain that level of challenge, and fix unintended exploits that make the game significantly easier.
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