It only takes 5 people (or 1 even) to 5 cap a zone with no resistance. Most of the secondary, phases RUIN drops into have 30 people easily. They are just sitting in New Home or attacking Mezzamere rather than capping flags. So RUIN takes advtantage of their stupidity.
And when did mi10 beat RUIN? Not that I have seen. Not sure I would consider a server crash a win TBH. But we all know Horde ego’s make them make up stuff on the forums.
Ruin runs day and night DO THEY NOT? Are you online DAY and NIGHT?
I have SEEN ruin get ROLSTOMPED with archoas IN IT when he was NOT streaming, other 2 or 3 more times in afternoon and morning.
Evening ones usually END up a crash, except yesterday AND today.
Ruin has lost PLENTY morning / afternoon AND evening fights, 3 server crashes ARE seperate.
Both SIDES have suffered losses, the SAY ruin has won 100% against MI10 raids is a BIG delusion.
This ISNT even about who WINS or LOSES,
MI10 today thought RUIN might be downsizing their raids for a BATTLE, they BROUGHT 3, ruin called in 5 on them.
Its CHEAP.
What are we defining as a win here? Beating RUIN in a single engagement, or winning the battle for Nazjatar? I have never seen RUIN lose a phase that they didn’t enter when there was a 5 cap, and weren’t able to bring people into fast enough.
I have seen them enter into 5 caps and win 3000 to 2990.
I have not heard of mi10 beating RUIN yet under these conditions. I have only heard of mi10 getting stomped or the server crashing. But then again I am not on 24/7.
The same can be said about RUIN though. They bring in multiple raid groups to win BfN. This is War Mode were talking about. It’s WPvP. You know a random phase with Horde can’t win on it, and when they do bring people, you’re saying they’re trying to crash the server.
You’re basically saying the phases that RUIN go to, Horde on that phase should just accept they’re there and let them win. That’s stupid.
thats CAUSE ur hearing it from your OWN ruin people that HIDE their losses, archoas HIMSELF does huge COVERUPS its NOT hard to notice it.
Lets DO some MATHS here shall we? Think on THIS.
Ruin could have 1 raid per battle in 12 phases
GETTING people MORE wins, win/loss ratio would be still HIGHER, more wins for ruins they achieve MORE than what they achieve right now., winning 3-4 shards and bragging? MI10 is doing the same thing WITH JUST ONE RAID DUDE. WITH ONE!!!
In the last BATTLE between ruin vs MI10.
Ruin typically WINS within 2 minutes on a shard, MI10 3 raid groups held off ruins 5 raids for 25 minutes!!! do you REALIZE how much time MI10 raids wasted of ruins?
While ruin was DESPERATELY trying to phase in 5 raids against 3 Mi10 raids where (mi10 lost) earlier today, they HELPED horde WIN plenty more on other shards.
One HORDE group can SLOW you down THIS much? ITS HYSTERICAL
If they CAN keep your raids occupied for 25 minutes without a CRASH, horde wins the remaining your 5 raids DOWN in the field on other shards. ROFL.
If it crashes that ALONE takes a good 10 minutes By the time it happens, most BFNS would be OVER.
YOU SEE?
This is MORE than fighting, its FACTION WAR.
and RUIN is LOSING.
Kinda ya. We’ve already well established that the servers can not handle a force that is capable of beating RUIN. The best they can do is slow RUIN down. If thats the goal, fair enough.
Argumentum ad lapidem.
Edit: mi10 will be gone once next patch hits. No way most people are going to sacrifice 30 conquest just for the sakes of spiting RUIN. Its only happening right now because its end of season and everyone is bored.
When 8.3 hits all the horde will flock to easy win phases.
So they helped a situation that was already going to happen. What a pointless exercise.
They MIGHT go away or they MIGHT NOT go away.
Point is THIS mi10 is doing A PERFECT job to makeyall LOOK BAD.
I already EXPLAINED above HOW.
They do the SAME thing what RUIN does, they win multiple BATTLES with JUST ONE raid they speed up THE winning PROCESS before RUIN gets there.
THey bring multiple raids to counter ruin to keep them on a shard to waste THEIR TIME which often results in a crash, ALLOWING other horde to win other shards SMOOTHLY.
Ruin covers 3 shards most of the TIME, if you READ their community chat by scrolling up YOu will see the same amount of WINS that MI10 does BUT with only ONE raid they ARE NOT zerging around with 4 raids.
If YOu compare both groups, MI10 already LOOKS better… in WHAT 2 WEEKS? Jeevus Greevus. THATS HORDE FOR YOU.
it was hysterical today how RUIN was so happy beating MI10 3 raid groups with 5 raid groups, without realizing MI10 kept them there for 25 minutes lmfaooooooo… You missed plenty of other battles THERE.
SO MUCH FOR HELPING PEOPLE TO GET WINS.
Mi10 raids SEEM more effective BECAUSE they also 5 cap within 2 minutes with JUST ONE RAID where RUIN NEEDS 4 RAIDS. KEK
KEKKK
It’s better to fight back instead of just giving up and letting them win honestly. If it distracts them and allows other Horde phases to win, then that’s great.
You forget that Horde also need conquest. If there’s RUIN groups hopping from shard to shard, I’m sure Mi10 will still be around. As I said, it still allows the other Horde phases to win. If keeping them there means they won’t be hopping to other shards, it’s worth it.
You are aware RUIN operates in more than one phase right? At least initially.
mi10 held RUIN up in one of the phases. Big whoop. While that was happening there would be another 4 raid groups stomping other phases.
Like I said. A pointless exercise.
“Oh snap. RUIN is on this phase. Do I look in LFG finder for a phase that doesn’t have RUIN on it? Or do I stay on this phase and lose out on 30 conquest?”
Most horde aren’t going to be so selfless lol
Mi10 has already SLOWED you DOWN more horde ARE starting to COPY what MI10 is doing they finish the BATTLES before YOU can even FIND IT, MATTER OF TIME ruin WILL be getting roflstomped or facing random raid groups In every OTHER shard because MI10 is publicly TELLING everyone WHAT TO DO and HOW TO DO IT.
MI10 as YOU said may not be around for TOO LONG, THEY are proving a POINT without a DOUBT what MI10 is doing ANY GROUP can ITS EASY to counter BACK.
Its SMART imo, EVEN MI10 knows server crashes HAPPEN, i suspect THEY are doing something else which WE may see the results of IT LATER.
As far AS I am concerned, I AM GLAD something LIKE this is HAPPENING finally.
it WOULD be better if ruin just BRINGS one or 2 raids to WIN against non premades, IF mi10 can DO IT, why cant RUIN?
Again it is hard to take you seriously with the random capitalization.
Not sure you are doing good PR for this mi10 group you are so hard for.
One look at any of your posts and I would steer clear of anything to do with anything you had to say.
Dont HAVE to take ME serious, JUST have to LOG ON HORDE and SEE what really HAPPENS. KEK.
Check MY POSTING HISTORY, pretty ANTI largescale and lagfest, which right NOW ruin is the ONLY one doing it.
You DID not answer the QUESTION
IF mi10 can win multiple SHARDS like RUIN but WITH ONE RAID while SLOWING down ruin for 25 minutes keeping their 5 RAIDS occupied. WHY cant ruin win with ONE RAID?
The RESULTS are surprisingly in MI10’s and Hordes favor.
Its ACTUALLY NOT MI10 that i have an hard ON, its RUIN that I am speaking against, Change ur non skilled behaviour u WILL see a different ZAPEY.
The hatred of RUIN seems unwarranted.
If you are in a phase with RUIN find another phase.,
If you aren’t in a phase with RUIN, capture the flags and finish phase as fast as possible.
Don’t really see what the QQ about RUIN. They are entirely a result of Alliance being outnumbered in war mode. Without them, Alliance would just not come out to battle for Naz.
Is that what you want? Total domination?
Just want to point out that horde already try to send raids against us and they don’t stop anything. Zapey is gaslighting because M10s only accomplishment so far is crashing servers.
Just want to point out that horde already try to send raids against us and they don’t stop anything. Zapey is gaslighting because M10s only accomplishment so far is crashing servers.
This IS NOT hatred you can DO the same thing with 1 or 2 raids. I still DONT understand why 4 are REQUIRED when i JUST told you we have SEEN mi10 groups do the EXACT same thing but with 1 raid and winning 3 to 5 shards and take multiple raids in RUIN shards.
If YOU think there WONT be any alliance in WARMODE without you, u MUST be on something, there is plenty of alliance in every zone ROFLSTOMPING HORDE, mechagon is the worst.
It appears ruin does NOT WANT any FIGHTS.
And glorify on dead shards against 20 horde WHILE they have 160 KEK.
Beating YOUR chest claiming to be a SUPERIOR organization then COMES in a random pug community COMPLETELY roflstomping YOUR raids causing you to LOSE, delay you, crash you and MATCHING your numbers upto 160 horde or more, SAME as your NUMBERS.
I DONT care if ruin wins on 12 phases or 3 phases, I even SAID have raids on 12 phases WIN MORE!? Bringing 4 raids on ONE shard really MAKES NO SENSE… IT REALLY does NOT because it guarantees a server crash when THERE Is Opposition.
Your SUGGESTIONS to change the phase you are IN while U get to FREE roll or Crash is not respectful, your community is FINE EXAMPLE of why i dislike ZERG communities.
You haven’t done anything against us. If you honestly think committing bannable offenses is beating your opponents then oh boy.
You haven’t done anything against us. If you honestly think committing bannable offenses is beating your opponents then oh boy.
its LIKE talking to a WALL that is SCARED of any opponents they RATHER not have any. When they BRING same NUMBERS as you NEXT time do what your LEADER said. WITHDRAW, WITHDRAW WITHDRAW!
KEK.
The DAY when MI10 raid groups FORCED out Ruin raids from their OWN server tichondrius.
BIG YIKES.
HAVE FUN with your non competitive gaming.
So horde doing same thing alliance does is bad because horde. LoL.
You do understand what you are saying about the horde trying to crash servers is the same brush one could use to paint Ruin with.
Get rid of the alliance extra bonus I say. That should clean things up a little. One raid group per side per shard. Boom fixed.
Lag is insane when not in a shard with a big horde raid but do have more than one alliance raid going.
Except in the 6 months Ruin has been running BfN we’ve caused exactly zero server crashes and battles are over in less than 10 minutes. This M10 group has been around less than a week and we’ve already had at least 4.
As I’ve made abundantly clear, moving to other shards or turning off warmode are more than viable options to deal with the situation. Contributing further to server instability, crashing the servers and gloating/welcoming them doesn’t help the situation. Indeed, it might harm your ability to enjoy the game.
Yeah no. Ive done several BFN where there was no horde raids going and I zoned out in 5 minutes because of lag. No horde raids, several alliance raids and I nearly DC for lag.
The “its ok for us but not anyone else” line of thought you have isnt logical or mature. Its a cover. Sounds like you are worried about losing a monopoly kid. Either that or you cant mentally process that horde are grouping for the same reason you do, to win. Unless alliance actively try and crash a server as well, which may explain why you trotted that idiotic argument out so quick.