anything IS POSSIBLE someones NEEDS to TAKE the first STEP.
AFTER what 5 crashes THIS week, In last BATTLE i believe MI10 only WENT in with 3 raids but ruin zerged with 4 or more, CHAT WAS KEK.
Its RUIN that has HESITATIONS not the HORDE, horde down sized to 3 raids from 5. But NOT RUIN. KEK.
Hey you and I are in agreement when it comes to mass raid pvp. I’m not really a fan.
I don’t disagree that if more alliance would be in warmode it would be easier to fight back and there would be less need of these mass raid communities, but sadly most of had such a terrible experience in 8.0 that they never came back.
Thank you for the complement Sir. 
I wonder. Do the server crashes help or hinder m10?
Horde do not need to join a massive zerg to win most phases. 90% of the phases I see result in Horde 5 capping and camping Mezz.
If you are Horde, are you going to join into a phase that is just going to crash?
Where as Alliance need to use LFG to win due to being outnumbered in war mode.
RUIN is a well established name at this point. People will keep joining despite a few crashes.
How long before m10 is a memory like so many other attempts at matching RUIN?
“Why should I join m10? We never win and only crash the server. Screw that! Ill just stay where I am and get an easy win.”
IF u did NOT know PROBABLY dont.
Not ONLY mi10 has been zerging ruin raids as a COUNTER, but at the SAME time they have been WINNING 4 to 5 other shards.
the WINNING happens if u JOIN their community u WILL see, Majority of THE times they WIN other times it crashes KEK.
YEH not SURE how long THIS will last for they DID come out of NOWHERE, for ALLL we know they could vanish again. THAT would be a HUGE loss for OUR faction.
I been GETTING HYPED seeing MANY horde in a SINGLE battle.
why DO you TYPE like THIS.
HARD to VIEW you as NOTHING but a TROLL.
you ARE obviously TRYING to be ANNOYING. But it AINT CUTE>
Might as well be typing like this.
I have AN unusual medical condition :s
its CALLED random CAPS lock, the docs are CONFUSED.
I am a RARE.
Still don’t see the point. Horde don’t need to join a specific group to win.
Why join M10 to join a crashing server when I could just stay on the already winning phase I am on?
Horde do not need to use group finder to win
Honestly most phases RUIN drops into could have been won already if the 30+ horde AFKing in New Home or zerging Mezz decided to actually take the flags and force a 5 cap.
This is actually much better than the CAPS.
Horde DOES not need MI10 to WIN dealing WITH ruin raid groups MI10 has been a HUGE HELP because NOBODY EVER got this many PEOPLE in a single BATTLE in nazjatar.
im HYPED with these battles.
HYPE HYPE HYPEEEE
MORE HYPE if both sides REDUCE down to 2 raids.
I think M10 is just made up of people who only want to thwart Ruin. As you said Horde don’t need to group up to win BFN. So for people joining M10, they don’t care if the server crashes , as long as Ruin does not get to win .
But I don’t see much future in this , people are probably doing this now because it’s he tail end of the patch and there is nothing else to do for now .
As Dosao just said, they need Mi10 to thwart the RUIN groups. They are there to specifically counter RUIN.
Pretty neato in my opinion, though I wouldn’t join because I hate large scale wpvp because it’s so laggy. 1 raid group vs 1 raid group is enough. Anything more than that is complete aids.
How does crashing the server thwart RUIN?
It doesn’t.
All RUIN does is log back in, and sets up in another phase.
Just a waste of time on the Hordes part to be honest.
Would be my guess what will happen. Once 8.3 is out and people care about conquest again, no one will go anywhere near m10. Doomed to fail.
Edit: And why do RUIN need to be thwarted anyways? Egoism?
RUIN can at most take 4 to 6 phases in a battle for naz period. There are dozens of phases that the Horde walk over for every phase RUIN enters. Horde crying about a non-issue.
You act as if they try to crash the server. They just want to fight back against RUIN. They’re the ones bringing in multiple raid groups first to begin with as said by this dodging DK.
Literally the dude just said they have 2-3 raid groups and shard hop to win as many games as they can. No random group of Horde on a shard can fight back against 2-3 raid groups, so Mi10 form up before that.
I guess you just don’t like it whenever you get a taste of your own medicine. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, large scale wpvp on that level needs to stop. I really hope Blizzard adds some hotfix to prevent more than 1 raid group in a shard at a time.
Because they don’t like RUIN for bringing in multiple raid groups? Maybe that could be an answer why? And they wanted to give them a taste of their own medicine?
Horde just need to accept they are not going to be able to match RUIN in a phase without crashing the server…
Or should i say,
Horde are not going to be able to match RUIN in a phase without crashing the server.
It would go against RUIN’s vision of helping as many Alliance get their win to downgrade just because horde want to cry about being outnumbered for once.
Horde think about this way wrong.
Alliance treat BFN as a PvE event.
Horde want to treat it as an PvP event and cry because it isn’t 10v1 in their favour.
Ruin shard hops … that more than anything annoys horde . Because you phase out and they show up again in yet another BFN. And that’s probably why a community which came out of nowhere is able to recruit hundreds of horde players for the sole reason of countering Ruin.
Then why do the Horde not push to try and win phases as fast as possible so RUIN cannot come in?
As I said, most phases RUIN comes into, there are 30+ horde either AFK in New Home, or camping Mezzamere despite only having 1 flag.
5 cap your phases as fast as possible. RUIN won’t come in. Simple.
Who’s to say they can’t? We dont know that since the server keeps crashing.
I guess if Blizzard implements some hotfix to make it so that 80 players, 40 on each faction, can be on a shard at one time, it’d fix that, “vision.”
The only one whining is you. You’re whining about Mi10 coming in with the same amount of numbers as RUIN, trying to say they don’t need to do that, or that they’re trying to crash the server just because they want to fight you.
Because as you said yourself, Horde can win without the use of LFG and win a majority of BfN phases when RUIN isnt there.
It’s a lot more smarter to keep the zerg of RUIN raid groups in one phase while the other Horde on different phases win theirs.
Are you slow?
Reread what you quoted. Specifically:
I guess. But as it stand now, RUIN vision is what it is.
I’m not crying. I just think Mi10 is wasting their time trying to match RUIN when its obvious that the servers are not stable enough to handle it.
I think bringing in 5 raid groups(Or 3 even) , when RUIN already has 4 raids in the phase, with knowledge that it will crash the server, is trying to crash the server.
They may want to fight, but the servers do allow for it. Horde should just accept it.
I am talking about phases RUIN is not on. They finish a battle and then people leave group and drop into phases.
Plenty of Horde on these phases, yet none playing to win. So RUIN comes in and deploys into these phases.
Ruin has been practicing in NAZJATAR since IT came OUT and ur comparing it to a 2 weeks old pvp community that WE have just started SEEING in the last 2 weeks or so?
A random horde group STARTS up and MATCHES ruins numbers upt o 160 horde in a SINGLE battle that WE have NEVER seen in nazjatar before, to be realistic IF this group STAYS long enough I CAN SEE them ROFLSTOMPIGN ruin on a DAILY basis, I have ALREADY seen them do it multiple TIMES.
3 times ruin LOST to them, 3 server crashes Yesterday WAS an embarrassing defeat for RUIN.
Your JUST barking WHY isnt horde doing THIS THIS THIS, you ARE not very realistic THAT everything TAKES time, You JUST dont come online ONE day and MAGICALLY have hundreds of PLAYERS in every shard where RUIN is.
KEK.
Why is EVERY ruin poster unreasonable?