Zapey has the next one started ?
I had to log off for something but hopefully I can get back fast enough to see what happens this time
Source on RUIN bringing 5 raid groups?
Also, why are horde preforming on flags?
https://www.wowhead.com/news=295779/october-22nd-hotfixes-eternal-palace-nerfs-battle-for-nazjatar-randomization-ene
The start time for the Battle of Nazjatar is no longer fixed to a 3-hour interval. The delay between events now has random variance.
- Developersâ note: As players have learned the timing of the event over the course of Rise of Azshara, increasingly the perceived optimal way to participate is to camp the control points in advance of the start time. By adding some variance (which still averages out to a 3-hour interval), we hope to make the Battle for Nazjatar more dynamic without reducing the overall frequency of the event.
Horde gloat in their idiocy I guess.
It should be obvious apparent that blizz does not want raid groups preforming on the flag points. Yet horde do done do that. One raid at Alathir, one at Thorasâtal, that I saw.
Its RUIn everyone KNOWS as soon as THEy think there is a FIGHT they try to phase in 5 RAIDS. New to ruin or FAKING IT?
Your POSTS shows random timers NOTHING to do with NOT being ABLE to stay NEAR FLAGS.
if RUIN is looking for actual FIGHTS they SHOULD reduce their raid sizes to 1 to 2 raid groups PER BATTLE, no more. Win or lose horde SHOULD do the same.
STOP making excuses on BLIZZARD when PLAYERS can solve it themselves.
PROUD OF THE HORDE they are effectively countering zerg with a zerg FINALLY.
Which LEAVES us ALL to a server crash.
If both SIDES are serious.
Down size raids.
Now ruin KNOWS even HORDE can pull hundreds of PLAYERS for a fight if THEY WANTED TO.
PROUD OF THE HORDE
FOR THE HORDE.
So the interpretation you get from blizz stating they changed the start times to discourage preforming on flags, is that they donât care about players preforming on flags.
Okay. Big brain take. While the chances of it actually bugging out the phase are low, maybe one should respect Blizzâs intent and I donât know, not preform on flags?
But what do Horde know about respect?
To my knowledge RUIN at most only every brings 4 raid groups, because them bringing 5 raid groups will crash the server even if horde do not reinforce.
I can sort of agree, that if Horde are going to start actually showing up, rather than bringing in 4 raid groups and crashing the server, they should bring in 3 at most if they see horde forming up. But then again that assumes horde bring in a max of 3. Which we both know ainât going to happen.
Both sides are going to cheese the system and try to bring in more crashing the server.
That is on Blizz for not having stable servers that canât handle more than 200 players in a phase without soiling its pants in 2020.
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Your ASKING horde to BRING 3 raids WHILE you bring 4 raids, telling HORDE how it can CRASH.
SERIOUSLY?
What is WRONG with you.
Down size 2 raids per battle BOTH SIDES should do this for a HEALTHY BATTLE.
PS: Stop making stupid comments telling HORDE to bring 3 raids while u BRING 4.
No ONE gives a DAMN about YOUR feelings about horde starting on FLAGS when your BUSY zerging battle with 4 raids RISKING a server crash.
JEEVUS GREEVUS.
THESE ruin players ARE STRANGE.
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Lol you were actively cheering for server crashes earlier in this thread. Stop flip flopping.
Um what? I did not? Are you unable to read.
Simplest explanation is that I am engaging with a forum troll?
My suggestion is that if RUIN just brings in 3, we both know Horde will try and bring 4 if they can.
If RUIN brought in 2, Horde will try and bring in 4.
No, servers cant even HANDLE 4 raids each side. Solution is 2 raids on EACH SIDE. If RUIN does NOT down size their raids to two raids per BATTLE thats BAD Because HORDE ONLY JUST recently in the last 2 weeks STARTED this thankfully. Before that it used to be ONE raid on a battle or NON at all against 4 RUIN raids, FAIR RIGHT? KEK
One raid per side per shard limit should be imposed. Anything more than that impacts people who are even out questing and leveling. Itâs not fair to them or those of us (cough me) who play on a potato 
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Still dodging.
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I already answered you multiple times.
Horde isnât the only ones to preform on flags. Both sides do it. Stop trying to make it seem as if only one faction does something when we both know factions donât matter and people will be people.
Whether thatâs true or not, itâs been proven in this thread, by a certain DK who keeps dodging questions, that RUIN regardless brings multiple raid groups on server shards and hops from phase to phase to win as many BfNs as they can. The server lags enough with only 2 raids on the shard, to the point itâs freeze frame WPvP.
From the comments on this thread alone, it seems Mi10, who I just learned of today, specifically targets phases with RUIN on them. They bring in the same amount of raids as RUIN does, and it becomes a giant lagfest to the point where it ends up crashing the server.
A simple solution would be not to bring in multiple raid groups in the first place, and also if Blizzard could implement some type of hotfix that only allows the maximum of 40 players each faction on a shard at a time. ( one raid group per shard, 80 players total ).
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No you didnt.
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RUIN specifically does not. They preform in Mezzamere. In fact, they will kick out anyone they see at the flag areaâs.
Yes I did.
Whether you choose to view that as an answer isnât my problem.
Does anyone know why Spy shows that you lost when you actually won ?
Just now in Naz , I killed a hunter who tried gank me when I was farming for pods. It showed me as having lost to him . It was a clean fight , no one else
Quote where you answered it then.
KEK KEK KEK
after ALL that CRASHING mi10 brings less raids RUIN STILL ZERGES with 4+
just read the MSG that mi10 WILL be bringing 4-5 raids AGAIN.
YIKES this is just going in CIRCLES.
The servers can not handle each side bringing 4-5 raid groups.
The most servers start to take a nap after there are 6 raid groups worth in phase no matter the balance.
M10 is just being idiots if they they are trying to bring in 5 raid groups specifically to fight RUIN. If M10 brings 5 and RUIN brings 4, how do you expect the servers not to crash. Dumb horde.
There is just no way to have a balanced fight without pop caps on the phases.
For there to be an even fight, RUIN would have to bring 2, M10 bring 2. But you know either side is gonna try to bring a 3rd and a 4th.
We just got our behinds kicked 
The lag was something else .