So i get it shadow scales very well with item level. Look at the logs for mythic you will be hard pressed to find any shadow priest’s on there. which is fine whatever that’s only one aspect but are they any better in mythic+ hell no… And then you buff all these other classes last week but leave shadow out. Sometimes i wonder if you all are even in touch with the game anymore, you destroyed shadow in mythic + unless you got a great tank and heals(holy paly def not a holy priest) which makes it sorta viable but only if the pulls happen really quick and many many mobs at once! Which is hell on your tank and healer! And we only have one dps spec, so why shouldn’t it be a top performer we only HAVE 1. I don’t want to re-roll but i feel like i am being forced to in every way, mythic’s, raids, pvp. I feel like a ton of people love priests and have been super faithful to them and I would venture to say you are going to lose those subs all together because you have made the game so alt un-friendly and anyone with a main priest is S.O.L… Just fix your mess up blizzard 25 percent nerfs across the board basically… Thats insanity was priest 25% ahead of the rest of the world? On what planet? And holy paly gets basically untouched. You can clearly see who the favorites are again this patch. And a mere 5-10% would make shadow viable but because people won’t speak up and admit that their dps is not where it should be blizz thinks this is okay. We get it no-one wants to go back on what they just tried to “fix” but really just broke completely… Anyone who plays priest should be upvoting this to try and get the attention priest deserves in a patch that is made for shadow…
I agree with you Erica. I posted this after the class “changes” last reset.
Shadow brings ample overall damage for most encounters, for some fights it’s even very good due to significant additional targets, ilgynoth mostly. Shadow’s also has been allowed a seat at the table on fights like raden because of the massive power spikes raids have been getting that allow them to brute force DPS checks which shadow could not help with early on.
The fact is shadows damage is getting better, but outside of a few encounters, the way in which that damage is delivered is just not valuable. Coupled with lacking an immunity, mobility cooldown, or effective proactive raid cd, and truly abysmal boss damage, we’re just not on the billing for early mythic raid progress this tier, and down with monks as one of the worst classes to bring to Mythic carapace or Nzoth.
Given parity, slow damage is not better than fast damage in any way, this is a problem unique to shadow and one I want to see fixed going into the next expansion.
As someone that only uses Shadow for stuff like world quests, how do people get 30% lingering insanity?
It might be because I don’t swap out to Shadow azerite traits, but I’ve found that even when I’m fighting rares/elites, I can usually only get 11-13% lingering insanity at most.
In raid encounters you frequently get to 50+ voidform stacks, especially with lucid major.
Good job. Please delete. Tired of trolls that have nothing to offer
I really want to give some constructive reply to what you’ve said but it’s really, really, hard to read without any formatting or paragraphs.
See, now you make it so nobody wants to help you. If you don’t care about what you’re writing, why should I or anyone else?
Pressing enter isn’t hard. 
Enter? You mean return… what are you even saying
Uhh ok sure. It’s enter on a lot of keyboards, but whatevs.
It’s ironic that you’re calling me out on using the word “enter” instead of “return” when you just went on a rant about how “this isn’t an English class”. (Even though I’m staring at a keyboard with only the word Enter on the key.)
But just looking at your logs compared to other shadow priests of the same iLvl and corruption, it might be safe to say that some of your problems are player based - not spec based.
I’m nowhere near an expert at shadow though, so I wouldn’t know what to tell you; I played Shadow as an OS for a few mythic fights when we needed DPS.
It would be better time spent if you improved your gameplay a bit and researched before ranting and rambling on the forums.
It’s the same key lol
There is no arguing with stupid. “Return” is short for “Return Carriage” as to start a new line of text. Enter does not do the same thing all the time. In some programs yes. But look at any iPhone. Do they have a enter button. No they have a return key. And as for Android I couldn’t tell you. And really what are you bringing to this conversation besides being a troll? Nothing… again maybe you need to “return” back to the land of trolls where you came from. Because not one thing you have said is of any use to anyone… literally no one.
Very few programs actually make a difference between the two keys, and a lot of keyboards just put the word enter on both keys. It’s funny you keep zeroing in on this because both Enter and Return do the same thing on this forum.
You haven’t said anything useful in this conversation either. You’re just ranting about how “reee shadow priest sucks”. Nothing positive will come from your post.
This forum is plagued by people just ranting and whining about how every priest spec sucks for some reason, and most of the time they can’t even play it correctly. You’re just one of those people.
GL
If you want I can try and distil the majority of it down into something coherent, while a lot of complaints come across as whining in their tone a lot of the feelings and experienced they are based on are at least in part coming from class design and balance issues that are genuine.
I already gave a brief summary above but only really said what the situation is currently, not what’s historically or currently causing it, what the implications of it are, or anything about how it could be solved.
You can look up my logs if you want; they’re not hidden. You’ll just find healing logs for this tier.
As for my main, I switched from disc priest to holy paly because I needed a change; I was getting really bored and would have probably quit until Shadowlands. Learning and playing holy paladin is really keeping me invested in the game. I might switch back though because our guild needs a disc priest :(.
You’re just way too worried about the meters for the content you do lol.
Have fun
I’m way to concerned… coming from the person who is the epitome of fair weather fan. Dude healing is the easiest job and everyone knows that. And you had to pick the best… get out of here. You bring and have brought nothing to this conversation but ignorance and quixotic views on the return key… can only imagine why you want to switch from holy paly to disc. Obviously there is someone that knows how to play holy paly in your guild and it’s not you… I’m waiting on your logs…
Lol you’re the one who was fixated on enter/return, but go ahead and keep putting that on me.
Saying healing is the easiest job is such an ignorant comment.
Go ahead and look up my logs. I don’t care. I’ve only been playing holy paly for 8.3 so I know I have a lot to learn.
Your posts are full of whining and baseless insults. Thanks for being mildly entertaining this afternoon.
Your logs are full of greys, so I have no idea how you can even compare. Man you’re an idiot. Sad you’re trying to lie when the numbers are there.