Barrage removal

can we have spells like barrage and eagle eye just as class spells there very handy especially barrage great for large pulls in dungeons /delves or farming

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I too would like to see barrage just added as a baseline spell, that is never worth using beyond for pulling
I love this for open world content and losing it would suck

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Barrage and Murder of Crows need to be baseline Hunter talents that we just have, and don’t need to spend any points on. That way, those of us who like those active talents can choose to use them.

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I miss the old murder, and use barrage a fair amount in delves. If anything, I’d like to see the damage of barrage increased for those nuisance spawns that show up with some bosses. There have been complaints in the forums about BM aoe being kind of lagging behind.

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Barrage was a trash talent and good riddance.

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You never farmed in the open world then
Just add it as a glyph or baseline ability or something where it does 0 damage and just aggros stuff

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Barrage will never be a good button unless you can actually cast other buttons while using it, it just does nothing of value in any content currently. Even in delves its a joke. BM aoe is also fine, dont know where you heard its bad.

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My god, we have Ghillie Suits as a talent. It would not hurt the hardcore players at all to have Barrage as a class talent for the solo players. M+ and Raiders could skip it entire. Or, you know, buff it to be worth using. The class has barely any damage buttons anymore, much less choices for those buttons.

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barrage is an absolute legend for quickly & indiscriminately pulling a lot of things in a hurry, which is the opposite of what you wanna do in m+ and raid, but made it incredibly useful for farming.

given that the devs gave mm pets back & added bm single pets purely to give players who like those non-optimal abilities a choice, why not stick barrage as a choice node with something useful in competitive content? that way it doesn’t get used in content that provides a challenge but the farmers can still pick it to do our thing. :dracthyr_shrug:

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I wouldnt mind getting Rapid Fire Barrage bsck into MM somehow, it was such a cool ability but really undertuned

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They’re not going to try that hot mess ever again. RF barrage had no future. Capped at 5 targets, got way worse the less targets you had.

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Barrage only lasts 2.7sec, and I’m constantly using it in the open world where it’s of great value, especially when playing with a good tank who can shepherd the mobs into a group that can be burned down quickly.

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Really annoyed about this change. I love Barrage and use it a lot.

I find it insanely useful for gathering small packs that I can deal with en-masse, especially when they are lower level. I use it very frequently when farming things or dealing with trash mobs, even in Delves. Yes, it must be used carefully as it can ‘splash’ quite a way.

It’s also useful for things like the ‘Spreading the Light’ event in Hallowfall or even the Dornogal theatre, to try and tag things before they are slaughtered near instantaneously by a bunch of players :smiley:

Why, why, why are they taking this away, what’s the justification ??

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Misdirect - Barrage is great for open world, delves, and timewalking. Anything for legacy farming as well. I quite enjoy having it and use it almost on cooldown in solo play for pulling large groups. I didn’t know it was going away. Big RiP

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What I find distressing is that Blizzard has systematically cut down on every active damage button, to the point that many specs have barely any choice as to what is on their bars. Not merely optimal choices, but choices at all. E.G. Marksman can only realistically decide between Volley and not having Volley. Meanwhile the passive bloat has expanded unabated, to the point of indifference to the dozens of spell effects that are activating without your notice or input. I thought the Dragonflight talent overhaul would help promote diversity of builds, but we’re fast devolving back towards homogenized specs.

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No, just remove this spell so many LFR and low m+ use it. Is a bad ability tahr new players think is good.

Barrage is bloody brilliant and one of the best active abilities, if you know how to use it correctly, like all skill-based talents.

Every active skill-based talent that’s taken away from ALL class/specs dumbs down the player base, encouraging lazy play, and makes for a boring game.

No one is born knowing how to play WoW. Mistakes are great teaching moments.

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Press button, fire cone, do no damage, much skill, much wow

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Don’t be lazy. Reading ≠ hard, but it is a skill…

Rapidly fires a spray of shots for 2.7 sec, dealing an average of 261,284 Physical damage to all nearby enemies in front of you. Usable while moving. Deals reduced damage beyond 8 targets. Grants Beast Cleave.

If Barrage didn’t burn down mobs, no one would use it.

If it didn’t require skill to use and aim it properly, no one would be complaining about using it incorrectly in instances.

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Barrage is a helpful tool when it’s not impacting what gets pulled. For mass pulls when your farming or clearing an area quick Barrage works wonders.

Having to target npcs individually is annoying especially when others are trying to get them first. It’s not an ability that should be used for when precision is important.

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