Barely Any Horde Characters In TWW

[Elaice-moon-guard]

Good, Horde died with Garrosh and should have been slowly phased out multiple expansions ago. You know Alliance would let them in since they are the carebear loser faction and even let EREDAR in the Alliance.

~Horde Main

[Erpolith-moon-guard]

@Varodoc-stormrage

Anduin is not an Alliance character. By his own admission, he is running away from Stormwind and the Alliance, no longer wanting to be associated with them.

Alleria is not an Alliance character. She has left the Alliance-aligned Ren’dorei group led by Magister Umbric and based in Telogrus Rift to pursue her personal hunt.

Magni is not an Alliance character. He renounced ties to Ironforge by submitting himself to serving as the listener of Azeroth’s Radiant Voice.

Khadgar is not an Alliance character. He is a member of the Kirin Tor, a Neutral organization.

What a load of rubbish. They’re all Alliance races so they’re Alliance characters.

Due the lack of Horde characters I decided to play an Alliance character. Otherwise I’d just feel disappointed that there’s no representation of Horde at all. Worse, if they do put in a Horde character they just end up being written like a human in an Orc costume.

[Hoheh-quelthalas]

And from what I’ve heard, all the Horde is going to get is a goblin themed patch. At least until Midnight (in which Alleria will of course be the elves savior).
I could be wrong, and I hope I’m wrong, but it seems that’s where things are going.

[Hamstar-draktharon (Hamstar)]

So far it feels like a Legion rehash.

[Dis-archimonde]

Seriously, playing TWW as a Zandalari Shadow Priest would be super insulting.

Between calling the recide-crew ‘my friend’ and Alleria acting like she’s the only person to ever touch Shadow…yeah I could burn down another tree full of elves…

[Voidcorp-hyjal]

There’s no strong body type 2 horde characters to replace sylvannas and they’re probably feeling hesitant about installing a body type 1. It will probably be thrall since they/them are safe and well known, then the horde will get more lore later in the expansion

[Elaice-moon-guard]

Despite the “male BEs look like women” meme that still lingers since TBC, Lor’Themar is unironically a good male character and doesn’t act like a sissy. He could easily be turned in to a great Horde leader.

[Hoheh-quelthalas]

The problem with Lor’Themar is that he’s too perfect. He’s morally good, rational (but not cold), reasonable, wise, well mannered, well intentioned and basically doesn’t really need any character growth.
I’d love to see more of him, but I can see how he’s not really the kind of material to take the spotlight too much.

[Felkaz-crusader-strike]

@Hoheh-quelthalas

(in which Alleria will of course be the elves savior).

Dear lord the absolute last thing I’d want. Please Xalatath just kill the windrunners , I’m so done with the tropes of this elf family and Alleria is acting dumb enough to absolutely deserve the death bat.

[Spring-the-underbog]

@Varodoc-stormrage

Anduin is not an Alliance character.

@Varodoc-stormrage

Alleria is not an Alliance character.

@Varodoc-stormrage

Magni is not an Alliance character.

I have never seen such a string of bad arguments all at once in my life.

[Vlädimyr-wyrmrest-accord]

Well the sky is blue so people are here to whine… Get over yourself.

[Marsius-bleeding-hollow]

@Dis-archimonde

Seriously, playing TWW as a Zandalari Shadow Priest would be super insulting.

Playing a Zandalari during MoP Remix was pretty funny.

Isle of Giants, Throne of Thunder, they should’ve all been friendly, including the Mogu and Thunder King lol.

[Deragoth-alleria]

I suspect he will eventually play a subservient role to the Windrunner sisters, or perhaps be in a situation where he needs strong independent women like the Windrunners to rescue him.

The male heroes are being weeded out or neutered. For the Alliance they were just retired or “became neutral”, for the Horde they were almost entirely disgraced or killed off, in Cairne’s case completely offscreen.

It’s Alliance centric because the Horde is dead except in name.

[Deragoth-alleria]

Thank you for participating in a whine thread with your well-reasoned contribution.

[Irtrakzul-area-52]

@Felkaz-crusader-strike

Alleria is acting dumb enough to absolutely deserve the death bat.

Nonsense Alleria is so smart, practically a genius. “Hmm yes, this ancient void entity known for manipulation is deliberately targeting and mocking me, making a show of it, knows everything about me and even lets me escape. I should keep taking the bait and follow them! That makes sense!”

[Hoheh-quelthalas]

@Deragoth-alleria

It’s Alliance centric because the Horde is dead except in name.

I think you’re right. It’s not just the male heroes, but the Horde in its entirety that doesn’t really have important characters anymore.

Apart from Thrall, who’s only relevant as a secondary character to Anduin, all the other reamining Horde characters are random NPC quest givers at best, but none can really become a main character anymore, neither male or female ones.

[Varodoc-stormrage]

@Erpolith-moon-guard

They’re all Alliance races so they’re Alliance characters.

So Gul’dan was a Horde character?

[Valenor-proudmoore]

I think what he means is that there isn’t a lot of representation for Horde races… So Orcs, Undead, Tauren, etc, which is definitely true.

[Karvalli-proudmoore]

Last time I checked though, Gul’dan wasn’t the current King of Orgrimmar, and didn’t come back with his new Horde allied race to hang out in Orgrimmar.

His reasoning for it was off, but saying that Anduin and Alleria aren’t Alliance characters is far more egregiously bad.

[Varodoc-stormrage]

@Karvalli-proudmoore

Last time I checked though, Gul’dan wasn’t the current King of Orgrimmar

Last I checked, Anduin hasn’t been in Stormwind for over 5 years and intentionally doesn’t want to return.