I farm mats and explore the world dont care much about gear I sometimes buy gear off the ah or get lucky farming. Players who only raid consume constantly but they never want to pay a fair price for consumes only time they complain about inflation is when pots get to expensive. If things they need cost to much for them suddenly the bots are out of control and its blizzards fault that they need to buy gold for their consumes. BOPs arent supposed to be sellable for a reason.
Good for you but I like the people Iâm playing with being invested in their characters. The whole âI donât care that much about my gearâ is exactly the players I donât want to play with. They probably also donât care to put much, if any effort into raid composition and group success.
Not saying GDKP was the whole problem but they ended up controlling the entire economy and the economy was clearly garbage if people needed to buy gold to play. Worst part the players buy tokens and cheaters buy gold to buy the tokens and have extra gold cause the gold sellers undercut Blizzard too.
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lol I put in effort unfortunately effort doesnt equal skill and so I dont raid cause I dont want to waste peoples time. Azeroth is still a fun place to explore.
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Thatâs the glory of Classic dude, effort is skill. You can cover the gap in skill you may feel you lack with more preparation for the raid. This wonât be required the more experience you gain. And raids arenât difficult enough to require high skill play.
exactly Its almost as if Blizzard is trying to create a nightmare for the bots.
Itâs different because everyone has access to the ah not everyone is confident enough or has the time and skill to Raid that raid gear is elite status thats why everyone strives for it GDKP cheapens that elite status by making it pay to play instead of a sign of endurance, resilience, and skill
Thatâs just my opinion but I think that might be the developerâs opinion as well
GDKP raids still need to kill the content lol, they are playing the exact same game as you.
Acting like there is some fundamental difference in how the raids actually PLAY is delusional, the only difference is loot distribution.
Everyone in the raid plays a role of some kind.
bring back gdkp best loot system in wow, no need for guild or raid times just competent pugs who actually know classic
Yes the loot goes to whoever is willing to pay the most gold
Good luck sustaining that for multiple raids, or even multiple items.
the whole idea of GDKP is that the wealth is distributed and persistent over multiple raids, even phases.
zoom out
The wealth of the realm has persistently been held by the bots through all the phases and GDKP helps them maintain their grip on the economy.
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GDKP is the only tool to fight bots. GDKP took off in BWL as a way to manage the prices of rising flasks.
All posters should have a detail showing when your sub was actually active and how much you played. Iâm so tired of educating roleplaying tourists.
Iâm glad youâve at least mentioned the real problem, the bots.
GDKP is mostly an internal ecosystem, with a community of players trading gold among themselves for items, it rarely leaves this cycle.
I still remember encountering chinese guilds back in BWL 2019/2020 time, they used GDKP as their internal loot system because they found other points based systems outside the game to be too annoying. i digress.
i hope you have noticed that even with GDKP banned for months that the bots still have an absolutely solid grip on the economy, with items such as darkmoon card purchases being completely out of reach for a normal player who does not RMT. Itâs almost as if GDKP is a very minor component in this problemâŚ
Blizzard has, instead of enforcing their existing rules properly, removed player agency and banned emergent player behaviour, without much success.
What they have succeeded in is providing even less incentive for people like me to continue playing the game during content droughts, further leading to a dead game.
i guess you can all jerk off over your ââhealthyââ economy (still infested with bots and RMT though, oops!) while you have barely any active raiding population. Very healthy for the game indeed!
As someone who uses the AH there are a lot less bot posts without GDKP around. The decks are being farmed for by most players not that many posted and those who farm the cards can eventually afford the decks by selling excess cards. Yes there will always be a handful of lazy people who just buy gold. Because there is 1 item that is super expensive and a handful of lazy selfish people willing to sell out the whole realm doesnât mean GDKP wasnât a problem. I have noticed significant improvement in the economy without GDKP
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Bots reduce the price of consumes not increase them. If flasks got to expensive it was probably because of a successful bot ban wave. Go farm the mats if you donât have gold to buy the flasks.
while that is true for the most part, it was not true for vanilla flasks.
black lotus was scarce and farmed by flyhacking bots. There was no infinite supply of them and the majority got sniped by these bots, making them remain extremely high in value until they increased the spawnrate.
farmed by flyhacking bots? How do you know they werent farmed by actual players?
exactly prices fall low enough that 1 person can buy all of a supply and drive up the price is terrible. GDKP puts to much gold in the hands of 1 player base and then bots drive the price way down so players stop farming when bots get banned the players with to much gold can afford to buy the whole supply. Banning GDKP keeps the economy more balanced by keeping the amount of gold per player more balanced.