Banning Bots Issue - How & Why

Serious question here, and if there’s more to it, please someone with experience educate me.

If private servers can ban IPs and bots… why can’t Blizzard do the same? What entails banning an IP? (Can they just refresh their PC/modem and get a new one? I honestly don’t know how that works)

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Banning an IP address is just that, banning an IP address. There are static IP addresses, but most end users have dynamic IP addresses.

This doesn’t mean that your IP address will change on you regularly. Normally, you are applying for a new IP address lease every 24 hours, and getting the same IP.

However, there are several ways to change IP addresses. This is relatively trivial for anyone who knows how, and a major hassle for someone who doesn’t or doesn’t have access. Especially if you are on a shared network (i.e. McDonald’s/Starbucks/School/Library, etc).

Then maybe Blizzard shouldn’t care if someone is on a shared connection. They should just ban all IPs caught botting.
Roommate caught botting? Get a different roommate. Although it’s likely not average players botting.

Sure. Which will affect 0% of those who bot, and just be a pain for people who don’t know what’s going on.

You just explained that the IP is permanent to them. It’s their IP. If that IP is found botting, without a doubt- ban it. Would they not need to go buy an entirely new PC to start a new account and continue botting?
You speak of internet at McDonalds/Starbucks/School Libraries… those are WiFi connections and any gamer with an ounce of sense should NOT be using those to connect for gaming.

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you clearly have never heard of a vpn lmao

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It isn’t. It’s trivial to change an IP for anyone who knows how. There are static IPs, but that isn’t typical for a consumer.

No. IP Address is not connected with a PC.

Umm. There may be WiFi connections to the local network, but there’s an IP address that is shared by all the users, whether they are connected to the network through WiFi, Ethernet, etc.


OK.

:woman_shrugging:

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The greenest intern could fix the bot detection system in less than a full week’s work. My forum access would probably be silenced if I elaborated on that.

You’re so smart that you’re in danger.

Ohh this should be good. No please, dont hold back. Tell us oh wise one.

Btw, I could totally fix world hunger but like… I dont want to because like… reasons

They wouldnt even need to stand up. They’d literally just disconnect and reconnect with a new IP. And anyone who uses the same campus wifi for instance would be perma-banned (assuming like you they had apparently never heard of a VPN)

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He can’t. Duh. The WoW police will catch him.

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What exactly does VPN stop? If their IP cannot be banned because they used a VPN… but their game account was- are you telling me these bots are swimming in enough money to pay for yet another month of game time (considering for this argument they just lost one) and then level up a character again just for collecting high value prof mats? Really seems like a waste. I would think, if Blizzard was banning bots daily, eventually they’d run out of money for more game time. idk. I’m too poor to understand I guess.

Well for one, at least a percentage of them are using fraudulent methods of payment. They know it’ll get caught eventually, but that process could take a couple months and they’ll have made a decent amount by then. I also highly doubt any of them are paying retail price for their subs even if the payment is legit (there are methods to get subscriptions as low as $4 a month.)
And either way, its just a numbers game. It’s all automated remember so other than subs their investment is only the internet and computer used to run each (group) of clients. If Blizz is catching 40% of them, but a 60% success rate is still enough to justify the expense for the botters… then they’re going to keep on doing it. As long as that critical percentage of them get through, everything else is just a cost of doing business.

I still have forum access, and I explained how to catch it.

Unfortunately it’s somewhat a true, an entry level engineer could likely make software that’s better than what’s currently in place for detecting bots (i.e…there is none outside of the report system most likely)