Ban Premades

The person doesn’t play much, is clueless, or yeah lying.

Do you mean raids vs. raids, and waiting in queue until another raid can be matched?

Yes or no?

Doesn’t sound like the changes you promoted would help you in that regard

Given that post, the original post makes zero sense. Says he doesn’t care, but that post makes it sound like he cares super hard about stomping random solos. And then advocates for allowing raids to stomp solos. Person’s batty.

If you don’t require queue syncing to win, good. You won’t mind us banning queue syncers then. Using chat, pings excetera, was always recommended. When folks that don’t know each other can read and follow a sound plan, that’s wonderful. What we see can be good old fashioned coordination. “Move to X, hold CDs until called for, first three targets are enemy hunters and then healers” "Lust and CDs NOW on hunters then healers proceed to decimate the opposition in 20 seconds That’s all good stuff.

Regardless of your ignorance of or choosing to ignore what has actually been going on, many queue syncers have advertised their PvP/discord EBG communities and that they queue sync, on these same WOW forums. It’s a bit too late to pretend it isn’t happening.

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We don’t hide that we play together. The communities all play together too except for the unmentionables. Communities exist because people are tired of trying to herd cats who do nothing but complain and say “You’re not my real dad” anytime you ask them to do something. When I say 4 to SF GY, it gets done. If I say that to pugs, it’s not going to happen. And that’s why communities are successful. We work together.

If you’re not queue syncing to get your raid sized teams into your games, then yeah, team work is great. As for the hearding cats problem, those cats pay their own sub, and might want to play how they choose(without using game exploits) even if it doesn’t actually help you, they can do as they wish, until you vote kick them and they get a loading screen because some random person leading a premade is delusional about their self importance and toxic enough to kick players who are playing the game they pay for.

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As can I, which is why I no longer heal for pugs.

It’s all a power trip with these ‘‘leaders.’’

These people don’t even have respectable Honor Levels - so, what’s the point of winning every BG? The #1 Honor Level in the world is over 4000 - and he uses a premade group - which actually makes sense - since he’s trying to accomplish staying at #1. His group serves a purpose.

These other group ‘‘leaders’’ are rocking 500-900 Honor Levels. They expect me to listen to them? Yeah… right.

My goal isn’t winning BGs - it’s to find stragglers - kill them 1v1… laugh, and move on.

That’s why I pay $15 a month… since Blizzard ruined WPvP by removing PvP servers.

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Yeah dude, heal or don’t heal, that’s always been your call. If you’re saying you don’t heal pugs because you don’t play with anyone you don’t know, because you queue sync community members into the same EBG so there are no pugs to heal, then that’s a little odd to admit. Unless of course you’re doing it the non-exloitive way and just play rated battlegrounds.

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No, I’m saying that I won’t heal unherdable cats. Which is why I quoted that section of your post.

That was me in Mist expansion solo queuing random BGs as a rogue. If we win, cool, if we don’t, I still had fun nuking any player that I found at half health once per min. Sequential macros made with wows own UI use to be my jam, just automatically stun, silence, and kill while spamming the same key, no skill needed, but some fun provided. AND I use to love being a Blood DK in Mists, I could slowly but successfully kill 5 players while flag carrying, also felt like cheating, but it was fun.

Ah yes, well in an EBG, anyone that’s not with you won’t be healed by default. Blizzard didn’t bless you with a 5000 yard healing range. It’s also totally recommended to focus on healing who’s actually near you.

Yep, they’ll be my friends, but they won’t be pugs. See how that works?

I’d say it might be likely that 80% of the pugs that read the raid leaders chats, will go where they are told. That should give you plenty of actually herdable cats to heal.

Yeah, it’s not. I tried to solo queue. I’m quite happy to not anymore.

I just don’t understand what their goal is - winning an Epic BG provides nothing of use. If I lose an Epic BG - I don’t care… (as long as it’s not strung out for 60 minutes.)

Why is it so important to win? You gain Honor - which increases your Honor Level… Honor Level, in non rated PvP is literally the only real thing you gain.

None of these people have good Honor Levels… other than Auggy - which is about 1600ish. That’s not even very high - compared to me… which is top 25 in the ENTIRE world.

The only Epic premade group that makes any sense, and serves a purpose - belongs to the guy ranked #1 in Honor Level… other than that winning/losing an Epic BG is meaningless.

It doesn’t ruin my day… whatsoever.

Technically, playing a video game provides nothing of use.

I play to have fun. Why do you play?

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I play to have fun as well. This isn’t my first account so 6 years of some PVP honor level wasn’t added to this one. But I was never what I would call hardcore in PvP, so honor level isn’t crazy high. For non-rated play, not chasing some mount or title, fun is really my only motivator to log in unless I’m chasing rating that season. I am most motivated to play while I’m chasing gear. A week or so after I’ve enjoyed playing my fully geared character, non-rated play doesn’t offer you much more than fun, and that’s ok.

I play for two reasons…

  1. To fight people 1v1 - win, laugh, and move on.
  2. Increase my Honor Level (which is the main ‘‘reward’’ for randoms.)

I do it solo - no groups. I don’t need your heals - because I cannot be beat 1v1. The only time I require heals, is if I assist your team fights - and that only happens if I need my daily win.

I play for me, myself, and I…