Ban addons in rated PvP (hot take)

Think the default limit on displayed buffs is 3 for the blizzard raid frames. I would support adding Bigdebuffs/bartender to the standard WoW UI, as it’s especially important for rdruid to track which HoTs are on people. I think there should also be a default toggle to use actions on key press rather than release (can do through bartender). Moveanything would also be nice to have default so you get a GUI to move stuff around (ffxiv has this).

Disagree on the DR tracker thing, and similarly for things like enemy CD trackers (in tournaments). Having a DR tracker is a huge advantage, and it makes comps like RMP easier in tournaments than in the past. Stopwatch alone can’t easily track multiple DRs.

The argument they gave for allowing them in tournaments was to make tournament play closer to ladder, but imo as a spectator I preferred when I knew there were no addons; it made you realize how good some people are at holding a bunch of information in their head (can also look at famous quake duelers like rapha).

I really hope they remove PvP addons; it would help even the playing field for lower rated players tremendously. It is also completely counter-productive to be able to see who you are going up against in arena, tracking DR’s, tracking your team cooldowns, etc.

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So, your thoughts on the subject are that people who have played the game for years know less about the game than a new player? Add-ons help everyone, but especially lower rated players. Lol

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My old a** doesn’t have 24/7 to play this game, I need addons. :frowning:

I’m a bit late to the party, but I think you are probably right OP. I think this would definitely do a lot for the game, including opening up the meta to a degree. People would be a lot more willing to try new things out if there wasn’t some timer in the center of an enemy player’s screen showing the CD/uptime of different abilities. Theory crafting would probably be a lot more fun at that point!

i think a lot of people would figure out they arent as good as they thought they were if they disabled addons. but then again the game isnt very readable so im kinda torn on the issue.

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You’re probably right on the money. Learning visual queues would become imperative. OFC there will always be sweaty try-hards. I remember years ago when league first came out there were people who used an app on their phone to track timers for different things in-game because there wasn’t anything in the UI able to do that at the time. I’m talking about Dragon, Baron, Summoner Spells, enemy Ulties, etc… Sweaters will always be sweaty.

there are trackers now but if i recall you had to see it die to have a tracker. same with jungle camps. still dont think you can track summoners which you shouldnt be able to. bad readability is also one of the main reasons it sucks as an esport. they could kill 2 birds with 1 stone by making their game less trash at a base level

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You’re probably right on that. I can’t remember all the facets, I just knew that there were phone apps that took the game to a level of somewhat unfair since it wasn’t something included in the game itself or widely known about. I knew people who used it, and I felt like it was pretty cringe. I played league back when Twisted Treeline 3v3 ranked was a thing, before they removed TT and brought in that other one with the spider. That one sucked so bad, and 3v3 became so unbalanced/unfun, that it completely killed that part of the game. Now it’s entirely removed and there is no more 3v3.

This is so fried. The only thing removing addons would do is kneecap lower rated players who rely on them and annoy anyone else who uses them because blizzards baseline way of tracking information is awful. You aren’t getting farmed at 1400 because they have addons and you don’t.

That’s a lot of words to say you don’t understand anything about this game and just want to ruin other peoples enjoyment.

It’d only be an issue for the people who have to download the latest mes weakaura pack and use lossa to scream everything at them. It would be really annoying to suddenly lose addons but it’s not the great equalizer people think it is.

It already is. If you rely on stuff to make bell noises you do scripted reactions into all the time you’ll have the awareness of a potato and get hardstuck fast.

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Can you add something aside from " I like addons so they should stay in " when plenty of people are tired of addons because they enable comps like RMP to dominate the ladder?

Also, post on your Retail toon. Your opinion should be representative of your main character.

Fixed that for you buddy.

Nah.

You’re intentionally trolling. I don’t feel like dealing with it. It’s been a long day. I hope the remainder of your day goes well. C ya!

Fixed it for you again.

i remember a few years ago you would get hated on if u had that gladiatorlossa addon.

now people have the weak auras that play a foghorn and add text to your screen whenever somebody pops a cd.

its pretty lame but what can ya do, even the rank 1s do it. hell they do it more than any1 else, cuz it obviously helps. otherwise why do it ?

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Everyone I know who plays with lossa get’s clowned on for it. They’re also the people who stay the same rating every season and don’t actually know how to play the game beyond pveing people.

Too many people just do pve dam all game and wait til the foghorn goes off and they know to press whatever defensive or kite.

In a way shadowlands pvp forces you to do it, if you don’t react fast to some of these cooldowns your partners just die. The damage is too high and failure to react instantly on cds results in a loss or falling behind and being unable to recover.

Hot take there

Not really. The majority of people who use lossa fall into this category, exceptions exist sure but you don’t use lossa if you’re good.

Hence the real underlying problem. I would be willing to try it, but I imagine the crying from players who crutch on things like GladiatorlosSA would have an aneurism.

Are you honestly saying DR timers shouldn’t exist? Say what you want about weak auras but you’re complaining about DR TIMERS LOL LIKE WHAT

You know that there is in game sound for literally every ability in the game. I could close my eyes and just listen to in game sounds and tell you almost every global every person is pushing.

Weak auras are not the problem. The problem is that blizzard has never implemented a UI that adequately displays information in a manner timely enough to match the pace of the game.

Decision making to play this game a the highest level, has to be so fast that it’s literally pre-emptive. You can’t expect 99% of humans that play arena to be able to do this. The ones that tried would quit so fast they’ never develop the intuition you’re talking about in the first place.

Idk man. There is literally nothing wrong with weak auras only because they are replacing what is an abundantly negligent standard PvP UI that doesn’t even remotely come close to adequately rendering relevant information for players to make informed decisions on. If blizzard actually provided one I wouldn’t disagree with you. But like every aspect of their game, they let passionate devs create their game for them for free.

Anyone else think it’s funny that after 16 years and billions of dollars in revenue players are still forced to download BigWigs in order to raid? I mean think about that for a second. You literally CAN NOT mythic raid at any competitive level without an entire third party program telling you exactly what to do.