Balance Druid Feedback: The War Within and Beyond

Balance druid in BFA was one of the worst iterations of the spec imo

It’s kinda weird to me that Stellar Flare is yet another standalone dot, and even with a cast time on it. I always thought Stellar Flare should’ve been a capstone talent that basically merged all 3 dots into one, replacing both Moonfire and Sunfire (if talented, adding more power to it).

Denizens of the Dream swap places with this new Stellar Flare in the talent tree, because honestly it gives me the feeling of a mid-tier talent.

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To me this is one of my main complaints about balance. If I wanted to be in bear form half the time I would be playing Guardian. No one is telling Fury warriors to put on a shield if they want survivability, why do Balance druids need to be dancing in and out of Bear to just not die?

I’m not doing higher levels of content either, even just doing T8 delves as Balance feels bad. I’d be happy for my main strategy to not involve opening my talent page and clicking activate under Guardian. lol

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NGL I really like the eclipse system in Cataclysm right now. It’s just a straight up 50% more damage while in solar or lunar. Which is fun and feels massive.

Bfa boomkin was the best that balance has ever been imo. Delete eclipse again and watch everything about the spec get better.

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Last patch of BFA boomkin really leaned into infinte stars corruption to prop it up. Felt terrible not having that specific corruption. Then Maut would one shot you from dots. By no means am I saying Boomie’s current state is fine.

I am more for BfA S1-S2.5 Boomy. I just had so much fun in PvP and raiding, respectively. I didn’t like corruptions at all, S4 was when I started playing FFXIV :dracthyr_lulmao:

NGL I really like the eclipse system in Cataclysm right now. It’s just a straight up 50% more damage while in solar or lunar. Which is fun and feels massive.

cata boomkin was definitely fun.
unfortunately, that older pendulum style of eclipse led to degenerate gameplay such as camping in one eclipse (often solar for sunfire and mushrooms) to make massive aoe gains. similarly, as much as i loved the legion playstyles with starweaver + rattle via legion legendaries, even that too was considered degenerate once the kirin tor buffs were added to our scythe of elune in legion s2/s3 (no longer viewable on the disabled scythes, but starfall also used to buff our dot damage by a decent amount when cast, so we used to have this insane positive feedback loop of starfall, starsurge, and dots), but the devs at the time decided they didn’t want us casting aoe abilities on single target fights and be rewarded for that.

i didn’t enjoy s1 bfa boomie, but the addition of arcanic pulsar in s2 made the spec fun for me again because it added value to the spenders. i think from bfa thereafter, i was stuck trying to recapture the thrill of legion and mop boomkin and it only went downhill as we kept getting stripped of our hybrid utilities (removal of tranquillity from class baseline for example, and now the removal of swiftmend from balance)

likewise, in current retail TWW S1, the removal of arcanic was confusing to me and initially i did not like whirling either because it was a paradigm shift, but after doing a lot of M+ with it, it does feel nice just to have more on-demand incarns in an M+ pull cadence, i don’t think i can go back to orbital strike.

Hey! Check out the new post for 11.1 feedback here! This thread will continue to serve as the place for longer-term core feedback on the spec. There will obviously be quite a bit of crossover but we hope to keep things in the 11.1 (and future specific PTRs) thread more focused on actionable feedback for the upcoming patch. This one will be updated every time a change occurs to ensure continued relevance. Thanks!

I have been playing a druid since 2004. I have to say I quit wow during the panda kid expansion and rejoined a year later. Balance druid in the new content take way too long to ramp up when other classes are demolishing things before you have the chance. People booting you from groups because they still utilize damage meters as a way to make sure people are not being lazy. I have 8 level 80s all around 595 or more I level, and I would put any class higher than the druid in dps. Maybe I am not doing something right but when you go into an 8+ delve it seems like everything hits for half of my 5.5 mil life. So, you have to ramp up while its beating on you or run around and chance drawing in more. It’s also kind of stupid IMO to have 1 class that has to ramp up when others don’t. I have tried downloading other people’s builds, watching YouTube videos, and I’m always doing way less damage than all of the other classes I play. I agree something needs to be done; I just cannot point out what. I think the whole eclipse thing is garbage and needs to be removed. When my resto druids Starfire hits for almost a million and the Balance one hits for 80k until ramped
 thats a issue to me.

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