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I didn’t say “it’s just a game”. I said that gathering professions are a part of the game that a player chooses to use. However, if the professions have become obsolete to farming gold and buying mats, it’s an issue. I validated my stance far beyond “it’s just a game”.

But they’ve always been obsolete to farming gold, I don’t understand.

There’s never been a point in the game’s life, all 17 years, where it’s not more efficient to farm gold than raw materials.

Or at the very least farm the materials worth the most gold, and then buy the cheaper materials.

Gathering is still really good gold

If you just farm only herbs in dme you can easily make 30-40g effortlessly in like 30 mins of work

Add the rtvs for mining and you looking at 100g+/hr

Only gathering profession that mostly sucks is skinning and even that isn’t too terrible if you skin the right stuff

A coordinated effort of a guild using spotters and runners to gather resources will naturally have an advantage over a solo farmer.

It really sounds like this guy is doing a lap behind the other farmers doing laps…

Just an FYIOP…having 300 herbalism doesn’t mean you own the nodes, doesn’t guarantee you will pick the herbs, and doesn’t guarantee that if you are on aPvP server that PvP won’t happen…

Stop QQing about having to compete for like it’s resources

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If your main is on Benediction, you should probably know that people are actively trying to farm that as it’s a required mat for the AQ opening, and we still need over ten thousand more stocked up.

As for the camping, that’s been the same for awhile. The guys camping lotuses with guildmates have been here for months. Their names are well known. Either get your own hunter and friends to contest spots with them, or do instance farming.

Sometimes it is. Knowing when certain herbs are going to spawn and watching other players pathing patterns makes a big difference in how many herbs you’ll come away with. Also where you choose to farm. Instead of EPL try WPL, yeah you won’t see any black lotus but you might come away with more plaguebloom.

You also need to pick the right time of day to farm. Raiding night on tuesday/friday are good times to farm in the evening. Mornings are okay. Middle of the day around noon is often very good during the week. OF course middle of night is also good.

That being said, it has nothing to do with covid. IT’s simply the fact we play on mega servers without layers. All resource spawns rates should be increased dramatically on mega servers. There is no good reason plaguebloom is 40g stack.
Fadeleaf is also going to become problematic here when everyone needs greater shadow resistance potions for Naxx.

Blizzard really underestimated the impact of the big servers and lack of management of the servers regarding faction distribution. I think they honestly underestimated how popular the game would actually be and entirely underestimated the staying power of classic wow. Potentially because their metric for staying power at the time was retail and how feast and famine that game is.

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Fadeleaf is instance farmable tho, not too big an issue.

I farm my dream foil, and mountain silver sage in ZG, but not every class can do that. Mostly because EPL, Fellwood, and WPL are usually cleaned out by a swamp of horde farmers and what is left the bots get. As for plague bloom I am forced to buy that =(

I solve that problem by just not using consumes. Instead I sell them at inflated prices.

LOL that works. I am stuck using consumes because Rogue.

If they are being picked clean so fast that you can’t find any, I would hardly call that obsolete.

Either get better at farming them, or pick another Prof. That has always been a part of WoW.

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Pretty simple. If youre after lotus dont bother with the super populated zones, and like with all open-world farming if you’re doing it during prime time expect to get a much lower return for your time.

Population sizes matter. You can stick your head in the ground and look at gathering in a vacuum so that you can ignore that spawn rates need to be tuned to populations on that server, but it will not make your point hold any more weight. You’re pretending that so long as herbs spawn at all, then everything is perfectly fine about gathering professions. Your perspective is myopic, and your input is shallow.

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Yes, that kind of is it, first of all, you don’t want to be farming plaguebloom in EPL. There are MUCH better places for that.

Exactly the reason they need to increase the spawn rate of herbs.

And yours is hyperbolic and self serving.

You can’t farm what you want when you want so the entire system must be broken, and professions are useless.

If there are mats on the AH, then there are enough in the game. If you don’t want to pay for it, then go farm. If you are being out farmed, buy it off AH.

Outside of the Black Lotus situation, I’ve seen very little evidence that the larger population is having a hugely negative effect. Faster they are picked, faster they respawn, more are in game.

Mining during peak hours is a no go, but if I pop in at off times, much easier.

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Suggesting that population size matters when discussing the viability of gathering professions is not hyperbolic.

Scale the spawn rate based on the servers present population, have that based on the old population cap, so that there is a representative maximum spawn rate, but at the same time if a zone is just flat dead then the spawn rate would be drastically decreased down to a base rate like the original vanilla value, even though the server is kickin in other zones. Maybe that way things can play a little closer to vanilla than this big server biz.